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    Default PA Rep. Ed Gainey Pushing Assault Weapons Ban

    PA State Representative Ed Gainey intends to introduce legislation for an assault weapons ban (AWB) in Pennsylvania.

    See http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/...cosponId=20171.

    WPXI-TV (Pittsburgh), in typical media orgiastic fashion, covered the story yesterday.

    See http://www.wpxi.com/news/rep-gainey-...ence/259244660

    Rep. Gainey's proposed AWB comes on the heels of his sister, Janese Talton-Jackson, being killed outside Cliff's Bar in Homewood after she rebuffed the advances of one Charles McKinney.

    See: http://www.vibe.com/2016/01/janese-t...ed-pittsburgh/.

    See also: http://triblive.com/news/adminpage/9...red-pittsburgh.

    And also: http://www.theroot.com/articles/cult...e_said_no.html.

    https://www.questia.com/newspaper/1P...ing-death-near.

    All the above being laid out. I will offer some thoughts.

    It's tragic that Ms. Talton-Jackson is dead.

    She was shot and killed by a man (Here I use the term loosely to describe his gender, as no real man would shoot a woman who merely rejected his romantic advances.) who was in possession of heroin and who was found to be in violation of firearms laws already on the books. McKinney faces homicide charges.

    Obviously, she was not shot with an AR-15 or an AK-47 (guns most associated with the description "assault weapon") -- as McKinney pulled the gun and shot Talton-Jackson in the chest.

    No number of laws would have prevented the lawless McKinney from shooting Ms. Talton-Jackson.

    An AWB would not have prevented the killing.

    Our inalienable right to keep and bear arms (RTKABA) is not the reason Ms. Talton-Jackson is dead. The existence of the RTKABA is completely irrelevant to the facts of the case.

    Having an AWB in place in Pennsylvania prior to Ms. Talton-Jackson's death would not have saved her. Implementing an AWB now certainly will not bring her back.

    Lastly, I will broach the subject of Ms. Talton-Jackson. I may be excoriated in some circles for bringing this up, but so be it.

    We live in dangerous times. Ms. Talton-Jackson was shot around closing time for Cliff's Bar (2:00 A.M.). What is a 29-year-old mother of two (some reports say three) doing out at a bar (which attracts clientele of the ilk of McKinney) so late in a dangerous area of Pittsburgh?

    As Talton-Jackson was shot in the early morning hours of Friday, January 22, 2016 (i.e., Thursday night turned into Friday morning), who was taking care of her young children?

    Ms. Talton-Jackson didn't deserve to die, but didn't she realize that risky choices (My research turned up at least one previous shooting in the bar -- http://www.wtae.com/news/man-shot-ki...d-bar/28181964.) sometimes result in dire outcomes? Didn't she realize as a mother that she had a responsibility to minimize and mitigate those risks?

    To Rep. Ed Gainey, I say that I'm very sorry for the loss of your sister; you have my deepest condolences.

    That being said, Rep. Gainey, it is shameful for a state representative such as yourself to be so ignorant of our history, our constitution, and our laws that you intend to introduce legislation in outright contradiction to them. It is the height of unseemliness for you to use the death of your sister as a stepping-stone to introduce an AWB in Pennsylvania.

    My inalienable rights are non-negotiable. The lawless misuse of firearms to commit murder and mayhem does not change that fact one iota.

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    Default Re: PA Rep. Ed Gainey Pushing Assault Weapons Ban

    So he wants to make a couple of hundred thousand of us criminals overnight.

    "Sadly, gun violence persistently continues to permeate cities and towns across America; Pennsylvania is no exception. While I understand and respect the enshrined Uniformed Firearms Act within Title 18, I also must regrettably acknowledge that we live in times where a balance must now be struck.

    I plan to introduce legislation that will effectively ban the possession, purchase, transfer, use or manufacture of an assault weapon. A new section is created within Title 18 that defines and bans the above acts with regard to assault weapons in this Commonwealth, and also provides for exceptions for members of the U.S. Armed Forces, Reserve, National Guard or law enforcement while performing and traveling to and from official duties.

    The penalty this bill carries for a violation is an M1 (1st degree Misdemeanor) which caps at five (5) years imprisonment and a $10,000 fine.

    I do not take this authorship lightly. I know full-well that this is an emotionally and politically charged issue on both sides of the argument. I have also seen firsthand the pointless and needless devastation assault weapons have caused families and entire communities countless times. We have all seen the devastation nationwide: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...=2&pli=1#gid=0 .

    Please consider co-sponsoring this legislation."

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    Default Re: PA Rep. Ed Gainey Pushing Assault Weapons Ban

    Let's ban ghettos.

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    Default Re: PA Rep. Ed Gainey Pushing Assault Weapons Ban

    Dear Representative Gainey,


    Go fuck yourself.

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    Default Re: PA Rep. Ed Gainey Pushing Assault Weapons Ban

    Then some wonder why dimocrats are universally hated on gun forums.
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    Default Re: PA Rep. Ed Gainey Pushing Assault Weapons Ban

    I went to high school with this assclown. He need to clean up his ghetto before trying to ban guns.

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    Default Re: PA Rep. Ed Gainey Pushing Assault Weapons Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Spirit of 76 View Post
    PA State Representative Ed Gainey intends to introduce legislation for an assault weapons ban (AWB) in Pennsylvania.

    See http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/...cosponId=20171.

    WPXI-TV (Pittsburgh), in typical media orgiastic fashion, covered the story yesterday.

    See http://www.wpxi.com/news/rep-gainey-...ence/259244660

    Rep. Gainey's proposed AWB comes on the heels of his sister, Janese Talton-Jackson, being killed outside Cliff's Bar in Homewood after she rebuffed the advances of one Charles McKinney.

    See: http://www.vibe.com/2016/01/janese-t...ed-pittsburgh/.

    See also: http://triblive.com/news/adminpage/9...red-pittsburgh.

    And also: http://www.theroot.com/articles/cult...e_said_no.html.

    https://www.questia.com/newspaper/1P...ing-death-near.

    All the above being laid out. I will offer some thoughts.

    It's tragic that Ms. Talton-Jackson is dead.

    She was shot and killed by a man (Here I use the term loosely to describe his gender, as no real man would shoot a woman who merely rejected his romantic advances.) who was in possession of heroin and who was found to be in violation of firearms laws already on the books. McKinney faces homicide charges.

    Obviously, she was not shot with an AR-15 or an AK-47 (guns most associated with the description "assault weapon") -- as McKinney pulled the gun and shot Talton-Jackson in the chest.

    No number of laws would have prevented the lawless McKinney from shooting Ms. Talton-Jackson.

    An AWB would not have prevented the killing.

    Our inalienable right to keep and bear arms (RTKABA) is not the reason Ms. Talton-Jackson is dead. The existence of the RTKABA is completely irrelevant to the facts of the case.

    Having an AWB in place in Pennsylvania prior to Ms. Talton-Jackson's death would not have saved her. Implementing an AWB now certainly will not bring her back.

    Lastly, I will broach the subject of Ms. Talton-Jackson. I may be excoriated in some circles for bringing this up, but so be it.

    We live in dangerous times. Ms. Talton-Jackson was shot around closing time for Cliff's Bar (2:00 A.M.). What is a 29-year-old mother of two (some reports say three) doing out at a bar (which attracts clientele of the ilk of McKinney) so late in a dangerous area of Pittsburgh?

    As Talton-Jackson was shot in the early morning hours of Friday, January 22, 2016 (i.e., Thursday night turned into Friday morning), who was taking care of her young children?

    Ms. Talton-Jackson didn't deserve to die, but didn't she realize that risky choices (My research turned up at least one previous shooting in the bar -- http://www.wtae.com/news/man-shot-ki...d-bar/28181964.) sometimes result in dire outcomes? Didn't she realize as a mother that she had a responsibility to minimize and mitigate those risks?

    To Rep. Ed Gainey, I say that I'm very sorry for the loss of your sister; you have my deepest condolences.

    That being said, Rep. Gainey, it is shameful for a state representative such as yourself to be so ignorant of our history, our constitution, and our laws that you intend to introduce legislation in outright contradiction to them. It is the height of unseemliness for you to use the death of your sister as a stepping-stone to introduce an AWB in Pennsylvania.

    My inalienable rights are non-negotiable. The lawless misuse of firearms to commit murder and mayhem does not change that fact one iota.
    Great post which ought to be sent to Gainey in the form of a letter or email or whatever else that can be thought up.

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    Default Re: PA Rep. Ed Gainey Pushing Assault Weapons Ban

    They're going to keep pushing. One of these days, law abiding gun owners are going to have enough of this bull shit and push back, HARD.
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    Default Re: PA Rep. Ed Gainey Pushing Assault Weapons Ban

    yea.. punishing me is going to bring your dead sister back.






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    Default Re: PA Rep. Ed Gainey Pushing Assault Weapons Ban

    Shouldn't they be making laws that ban murder? Oh wait... never mind.
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