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    Default Eotech refund time line

    Just sent my refund request, any idea how long it takes. I did a search and nothing..

    http://soldiersystems.net/2015/12/08...weapon-sights/

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    "A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself"

    "He created the game, played the game, and lost the game.... All under his own terms, by his own doing." JW34

    "Tolerance is the lube that helps slip the dildo of dysfunction into the ass of a civilized society." Plato

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    Default Re: Eotech refund time line

    Expect a check about two months from the day eotech received your return. My two months is up tomorrow and personally, im pretty sour about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marinville View Post
    Expect a check about two months from the day eotech received your return. My two months is up tomorrow and personally, im pretty sour about it.

    I have 11 more days to wait. It would appear that many are getting sour. I sent back two.
    Aggies Coach Really ??? Take off the tin foil bro.

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    Default Re: Eotech refund time line

    I received the email authorizing my return but I am not sure I want a refund. I like my EoTech and maybe I can get a used G33 magnifier now pretty cheap if everyone is returning their sites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ftownkev View Post
    I received the email authorizing my return but I am not sure I want a refund. I like my EoTech and maybe I can get a used G33 magnifier now pretty cheap if everyone is returning their sites.
    My G33 magnifier hooks up just fine with my Aimpoint. I'm trying to decide if I want to send the magnifier back. They will refund the cost if it was part of a set but not if it was purchased alone. If I send the two I have back along with the magnifier, I'm looking at somewhere around $1800. That's a nice chunk of change.
    "A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself"

    "He created the game, played the game, and lost the game.... All under his own terms, by his own doing." JW34

    "Tolerance is the lube that helps slip the dildo of dysfunction into the ass of a civilized society." Plato

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    Default Re: Eotech refund time line

    I missed this one. Damn expensive sight. Now its a pos. Joy for joy. Mine is reaperZ cammo. I guess stick to aim point. Is my Bushnell T25 a better sight than my eotech? Id laugh but my wallet hurts.

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    There is nothing really wrong with the EoTechs. The only issue is at very extreme temperatures they may loose zero. Now for the majority of shooters going to the range this will never be a issue. On the other hand if you vacation in the deserts of the Middle East and leave your EoTech out to bake in the sun for hours you may have a issue. In real world this can also happen if it's a 100 degree day and you leave your site in your cars trunk it can loose zero. Now keep in mind it might loose zero and if it does it not dramatically off.
    Like I said I got the approval for my refund but I love my EoTech and think I will keep it.


    Quote Originally Posted by Gunsnwater View Post
    I missed this one. Damn expensive sight. Now its a pos. Joy for joy. Mine is reaperZ cammo. I guess stick to aim point. Is my Bushnell T25 a better sight than my eotech? Id laugh but my wallet hurts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ftownkev View Post
    There is nothing really wrong with the EoTechs. The only issue is at very extreme temperatures they may loose zero. Now for the majority of shooters going to the range this will never be a issue. On the other hand if you vacation in the deserts of the Middle East and leave your EoTech out to bake in the sun for hours you may have a issue. In real world this can also happen if it's a 100 degree day and you leave your site in your cars trunk it can loose zero. Now keep in mind it might loose zero and if it does it not dramatically off.
    Like I said I got the approval for my refund but I love my EoTech and think I will keep it.
    If you want to keep your sight, that is your business, but this information is incorrect. Eotech sights will have some degree of zero shift at ANY temperature other than the ambient temperature at which the sight was zeroed, and after exposure to (what eotech calls) extreme temperature, they fail to return to their normal zero even at ambient temperature. They also have significant parallax issues, and only hit point of aim when the reticle is centered in the window.

    http://www.eotechinc.com/hws-service...port/faq#29627

    Will the HWS hold zero as temperature changes?
    EOTech’s sights experience a point of impact shift away from the point of aim when the sight is exposed to a temperature different from the temperature at which the sight was zeroed. After zeroing the sight at or near ambient temperature (73°F), the zero position will shift during operating temperature changes. The sight has the potential to shift approximately +/- 5 Minutes of Angle (“MOA”) at -40°F and 122°F. Due to thermal drift, the sight may not return to zero. The sights have the potential of approximately a +/- 2 MOA zero shift upon return to ambient (73°F) after being exposed to any temperature between -40°F and 122°F.

    This shift results from natural thermal expansion or contraction that is present in various materials as they are heated or cooled, and is greater the more extreme the temperature change. For example, when a sight is zeroed at 70˚ F then acclimated to 50˚ F, less shift will occur. On the other hand, if zeroed at 70˚ F, then acclimated to 0˚ F, more shift occurs. The shift may not be significant to shooters who use their sights at close-quarters ranges. For instance, 5 MOA is a shift of 1.25 inches at 25 yards, and is 5 inches at 100 yards. It also is worth noting that thermal effects are evidenced to varying degrees in common optics, as well as in rifle barrels and ammunition as the environmental conditions change. In all events, to achieve optimum accuracy, the sight zero should be verified whenever the sight is exposed to marked temperature changes, and the sight should be re-zeroed as necessary.

    Does the HWS have parallax?
    All optics experience varying degrees of parallax depending on use and operating conditions. Parallax is an apparent change in the point of aim resulting from a change in the position of the shooter. EOTech’s sights have little parallax when the reticle is in the center of the viewing window, which is the optimum sighting position and also is the correct place for zeroing the sight. On the other hand, if the user is looking through the sight at the outer edge of the sight window – an off-axis view – the parallax error might be up to 4±3 MOA (or a total of 14 MOA across the viewing window) at 71˚ F (for a sight properly zeroed). In other words, parallax can increase as the user’s view approaches the edge of the EOTech viewing window. To put this possible amount of off-axis error into perspective, 7 MOA equates to 1.75 inches at 25 yards or 7 inches at 100 yards. Viewing through the center of the window achieves the least parallax error. Parallax may increase as temperature changes from 71˚ F. At operating temperature extremes of -40˚ F or 122˚ F, there may be an additional 4 MOA of parallax.

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    Default Re: Eotech refund time line

    The parallax issue it totally screwed up. No other dot sight I know of has this. That's the beauty of the dot sight. And it appears to be every model. Combined with the temperature issue, eotech is junk not worthy of soft air. Like I posted before, I guess my bushnell T25 is better and worth more. I'm feeling really ripped off.
    Last edited by Gunsnwater; March 5th, 2016 at 01:03 AM.

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