New info from Oregon

**unclejumbo** · February 10th, 2016, 11:14 PM

Originally Posted by bogey1

What does it matter about his attorneys opinion? Don't we all have the legal right to an opinion?

You do, but in the same post

WE don't know the facts, We don't know what really happened there, yet we're fighting like we know, and we don't, We have formed an opinion of what we see going on around us and our life history but it's kind of obvious things aren't what they used to be..

With that being said, can we disseminate news as we find it without all the judgmental bullshit please.. I'm more interested in the truth getting out as it comes out.

I take that to mean he'd like this thread to be about facts. If that's the case, posting opinion, whether self generated or generated by another doesn't bode well for the wish to keep this thread for facts.

**51158** · February 10th, 2016, 11:24 PM

Originally Posted by unclejumbo

You do, but in the same post

I take that to mean he'd like this thread to be about facts. If that's the case, posting opinion, whether self generated or generated by another doesn't bode well for the wish to keep this thread for facts.

can you say there is factual content in that post? that lawyer is closer to the truth than we are, is it tainted sure, but their is still some good info in the article..how does one decide what is fact when we are all 2000 miles away unless someone has family there.. Aren't we splitting hairs here?

I just don't want to let this go away while it's still going on..

**BobGun** · February 11th, 2016, 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by unclejumbo

Because governors don't issue use of force orders. They're codified within the law. Further, the FBI wouldn't be taking orders from the governor on a crime occurring in a federal wildlife refuge. Lastly, agencies aren't "out for blood" when they do their job. They're are out to do their job.

Well the FBI sure produces a lot of Blood "just doing their jobs". This is the same reasons the Nazis gave, they were only doing their jobs. The FBI and ATF at Waco and Ruby Ridge were only doing their jobs also.

Their job in this instance was to send a message and do it in away that would not have started a mass out pouring of support for the Bundys. If they had wiped out the entire group like they did at Waco and Ruby Ridge their might have been a massive backlash. This way it was only one person, but the message got sent. DO NOT MESS with the .gov.

**unclejumbo** · February 11th, 2016, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by BobGun

Well the FBI sure produces a lot of Blood "just doing their jobs". This is the same reasons the Nazis gave, they were only doing their jobs. The FBI and ATF at Waco and Ruby Ridge were only doing their jobs also.

Their job in this instance was to send a message and do it in away that would not have started a mass out pouring of support for the Bundys. If they had wiped out the entire group like they did at Waco and Ruby Ridge their might have been a massive backlash. This way it was only one person, but the message got sent. DO NOT MESS with the .gov.

Uh huh.