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    Default Black powder rifle/shotgun/pistol courses in Eastern PA?

    Hi all,

    Had my chance to shoot a black powder shotgun for the first time today and absolutely fell in love. I've always had a fascination with BP firearms but never found a place that will let me shoot them.

    That being said, I'm looking for two things... one is an instructor or knowledgeable person to teach me, and another is a place to shoot them as my local range doesn't seem to permit BP shooting.

    Does anyone know of an instructor or course in the Eastern PA area? I'm willing to drive a fair distance for this.

    Thanks!
    Your neighborhood friendly candyman, Tim

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    Default Re: Black powder rifle/shotgun/pistol courses in Eastern PA?

    Check out
    http://www.dixonmuzzleloading.com/
    They may be able to help

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    Default Re: Black powder rifle/shotgun/pistol courses in Eastern PA?

    By the way, out of curiosity, what range prohibits black powder shooting?

    At the clubs I have shot at, there are special rules relating to black powder guns. Delaware County Field and Stream has a dedicated black powder range. They have a number of competitions throughout the year.

    Loading a muzzleloader necessitates handling the gun with the muzzle pointed other than down range. Flintlocks require care on a firing line so that you don't spray the guy next to you with flaming powder from your flash hole.

    Black powder shotguns particularly antique ones, are more likely to be prohibited if they are made from Damascus steel. I'm no expert on Damascus steel, but my understanding is that it made by forging thin strips of steel, laminating them together and then around a rod to form a tube. They are of questionable strength and can't hold up to modern charges. I'm sure there are good ones, but a range operator has no way of knowing, so they don't allow Damascus steel guns.

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    Default Re: Black powder rifle/shotgun/pistol courses in Eastern PA?

    Let me rephrase, my range doesn't explicitly prohibit it, but they don't call it out as something allowed. The rules specify muzzles pointed downrange so it seems to disallow it.

    The range is Easton Fish and Game. I'm trying to contact the board to determine if my assumptions are correct.

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    Default Re: Black powder rifle/shotgun/pistol courses in Eastern PA?

    Quote Originally Posted by Candyman87 View Post
    Let me rephrase, my range doesn't explicitly prohibit it, but they don't call it out as something allowed. The rules specify muzzles pointed downrange so it seems to disallow it.

    The range is Easton Fish and Game. I'm trying to contact the board to determine if my assumptions are correct.
    My guess is that there is just so little interest or activity in BP shooting that no one ever set down rules. That is how it was at my range. I only knew of 2 or 3 BP shooters and they were old timers and pretty experienced. They taught me a lot. I guess there must have been an increase in BP activity, because at some point, they added a section to the rule book. It pretty much matched what the guys taught me. Stuff like
    -do not pour directly from your powder bottle into the barrel. Use a measure or similar.
    -powder bottles should stay closed
    -take care in moving your barrel from vertical (loading) to the vertical.
    -do not prime your pan or insert a cap until your muzzle is down range.
    -flintlocks require a device to prevent flash from burning the guy next to you


    Send an email to whomever runs the rifle range, or the safety director at your club. They should be able to guide you.

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    Default Re: Black powder rifle/shotgun/pistol courses in Eastern PA?

    NRA has a muzzleloader shooting class in Tobyhanna - not sure if thats around you or what you are looking for.

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    Default Re: Black powder rifle/shotgun/pistol courses in Eastern PA?

    I'm a member of both Ontelaunee Rod & Gun and Topton Fish & Game - they both allow muzzleloaders / black powder.

    As mentioned before, Dixon's Muzzleloading is an extremely valuable source for knowledge and supplies. They're a traditional muzzleloading Mecca for people from all around. If you haven't been there, that's the ONE place I would tell you to go if you're interested in black powder.

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    Default Re: Black powder rifle/shotgun/pistol courses in Eastern PA?

    Tim, get to a SASS match lots of BP shooters there. Here is a list of PA clubs
    Lester Moore
    lestermoore44@yahoo.com
    610-704-6792
    Date of Match: 1st Sunday April through November
    Chimney Rocks Regulators
    484 Hollidaysburg Sportsmens Road
    Hollidaysburg, Pennsylvania, 16648
    locate on map
    Relentless Renegade
    relentlessrenegade@thecountryoutlaws.net
    814-414-1461
    Date of Match: 2nd Saturday @ 10:00 am
    Delaware Drifters
    1090 Hughes Road
    Muncy, PA 17756
    locate on map
    Fort Benning John
    linotype@uplink.net
    570-506-0658
    Date of Match: As Scheduled (March-November)
    El Posse Grande
    PO Box 309
    Muncy Valley, Pennsylvania, 17758
    locate on map
    Sgt. Hochbauer
    fireonthemtn02@hotmail.com
    917-913-9391
    Date of Match: 4th Sunday at the North Mountain Sportsmen Club
    Elstonville Hombres
    3133 Pinch Road
    Manheim, PA 17545
    locate on map
    Trusty Sidekick
    sass32866ts@aol.com
    610-939-9947
    Date of Match: 4th Sunday
    Heidelberg Sportsman Association

    Schaefferstown, PA 17088
    locate on map
    High Spade Mikey Wilson
    clubnews@heidelbergsportsmensassociation.org
    717-949-3693
    Date of Match: 2nd Sunday
    Jefferson Outlaws
    5209 Snyder Mill Road
    Spring Grove, PA 17362
    locate on map
    Red-eyed Kid
    browning12g@msn.com
    443-392-1615
    Date of Match: 3rd Saturday (March - November) - 8:30 am
    Logans Ferry Regulators
    210 Field Club Road P.O. Box 14047
    Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, 15239
    locate on map
    Mariah Kid
    mariahkid@comcast.net
    412-607-5313
    Date of Match: 2nd Saturday - 9:30 am - Logans Ferry Sportsmens Club
    Matamoras Mavericks
    120 Ron and Gun Club Road
    Milford, PA 18337
    locate on map
    Hammerin Steel
    pinzoneconstruction@yahoo.com
    570-296-5853
    Date of Match: 3rd Sunday at the Matamoras Rod and Gun Club
    Perry County Regulators
    306 Snyder Lane
    Newport, PA
    locate on map
    Tuscarora Slim
    tslim1@centurylink.net
    717-789-3004
    Date of Match: 1st Saturday - 9:00 AM
    Purgatory Regulators
    P.O. Box 110
    Titusville, Pennsylvania, 16354
    locate on map
    Dry Gulch Geezer
    n/a
    814-827-2120
    Date of Match: 3rd Weekend
    River Junction Shootist Society
    Kesslar School Road
    Acme, PA 15610
    locate on map
    Mattie Hays
    csipe@lhtot.com
    724-593-6602
    Date of Match: 3rd Saturday - 10:00 am April to October
    Welsh Mountain Regulators
    589 Meetinghouse Road
    Gap, Pennsylvania 17527
    locate on map
    Biloxi Bob
    biloxibob357@gmail.com
    610-913-1992
    Date of Match: 4th Saturday at 9:00 am
    Westshore Posse
    564 Ridge Road
    Lewisberry, PA 17339
    locate on map
    Hud McCoy
    hudmccoy@aol.com
    410-984-2249
    Date of Match: 2nd Sunday
    Member NRA, SASS, & HOG.

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