Legality of Open-Carrying the Non-NFA 14" Mossberg

[knight0334]

Is it prohibited with an 18" barrel and the same stock?

As Noah said above, no.

However, it would no longer be a PA "firearm" - thus you couldn't carry it loaded within a vehicle.

However, since it wouldn't be a "firearm", no LTCF would be required to carry it openly or concealed(outside of Philly and absent a state of emergency).

[bluetrane2028]

I didn't think it would have been an issue. I have the raptor grip, it's awesome and way better than anything else I've tried for a PGO. I don't currently have it installed on a shotgun, but if another Mossy 500 came across my nose for a good price I probably wouldn't say no.

[gnbrotz]

I didn't think it would have been an issue.

Does that mean "I think all of the legal citations here are wrong" or "yeah, it's illegal, but you might not get caught."

[bluetrane2028]

Does that mean "I think all of the legal citations here are wrong" or "yeah, it's illegal, but you might not get caught."

Meaning, you can buy a Mossberg 500 in a PA gun store with an 18.5" barrel and a standard pistol grip, so why the hell would plopping on a bird's head type grip make it suddenly illegal to own?

[gnbrotz]

Meaning, you can buy a Mossberg 500 in a PA gun store with an 18.5" barrel and a standard pistol grip, so why the hell would plopping on a bird's head type grip make it suddenly illegal to own?

It wouldn't, but the gun being discussed here only has a 14" barrel. THAT'S what makes it illegal here.

[USMC3531]

that could be the reason they attempt to close the "loophole" it cant be a pistol because its not rifled, not an aow because its 26"+, not a shotgun because it has no stock. IMO it very well could be a DD (destructive devise) because the bore is over .50" and has no "sporting purpose" (thats how they banned the cobray street sweeper)

[Krichardson]

I remember that and was all set to go and purchase a Striker 12 when they decided to reclassify it

[knight0334]

You're best off to do a Form 1 and construct one from a shotgun(once having had a shoulder stock). That way you can get the NFA tax stamp and you wont violate PA's Prohibited Offensive Weapons law.

[Big-O]

Whoa!!! Is it a definitive certainty that this kind of "firearm" is a no-go and illegal here in PA? I read the info (shotgun never having had a fixed stock on it and all), did some research, watched some vids and WAS all set to set up one of these 14" barelled "firearms".

UGH!!!! It's like a kick in the gut, BUT, if it is illegal in PA am I overjoyed that I stumbled onto this thread!

I really thought I did my due diligence and read up thoroughly on this and was good to go. Darn.

[Armor Snail]

Yeah I'm wondering that as well after reading the POW statute again...it mentions shotguns...but this is not, a shotgun.