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    Default Open Carry... And Loving It

    "Could I ride MARTA to work, during rush hour, with a gun on my waist, without alarming passengers or earning a possibly unpleasant chat with MARTA police? At 8 a.m. on a Thursday, I clipped my Beretta to my belt at the Edgewood-Candler Park station. I had decided to carry the Beretta because it's about 2.5 times the size of my .38 revolver. You can't help but see it. With my Breeze Card in hand – and my gun permit and driver's license in my left pocket, intentionally opposite the holster in case I had to produce them for MARTA police – I took the escalator into the station. I passed four people along the way. No reaction. At the passenger gate, I passed a woman who appeared to be in a MARTA uniform. "Good morning," she said, without glancing at my gun. I waited on the platform, with a dozen or so people, and even stood in the middle of the crowd so the most people could see me. Nothing."

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    Gun-toting in Georgia

    How I learned to stop worrying and love carrying my gun

    Published 07.30.08By Andisheh Nouraeeen

    If you intend to rob me, stab me or punch me in the neck because you think I looked at you funny, I recommend you glance at my waist before lifting the pull tab on that can of whoop-ass.

    I may be carrying a handgun.

    Nearly everyone in our state can legally keep guns in their home. I am one of the few, the proud, the Georgia Firearms Licensed – one of a reported 300,000 Georgians permitted to carry a gun in public.

    Unlike the 9.2 million-or-so Peach Staters who do not possess firearms licenses, I'm legally permitted to carry a gun pretty much everywhere I go – walking my dogs, sipping a latte at my neighborhood coffee shop, buying deodorant at Target.

    Firearms licenses are easy to get in Georgia. All you need is a clean criminal record, about $40 and a couple of hours to spend at your county's probate court.

    If you're married, you may already be familiar with probate court. It's also the place that issues marriage licenses. In fact, when you call the Fulton County Probate Court the recorded message actually says "For information about marriage licenses, please press one. For information about firearms licenses, please press two." Romantic, eh?

    I got my gun license a year and a half ago after I was relieved of my wallet at gunpoint at my front door by a man who threatened to come back for me if I cancelled my ATM and credit cards.

    Since he was clearly comfortable dropping by the house unannounced, police told me to take the threat seriously by carrying a gun myself.

    I've had handguns for target shooting=2 0since I was a kid, but never carried one for self-defense. After the robbery, I applied for a permit so I could carry a gun without breaking the law. And even before the license arrived, I started to carry my gun from my driveway to my front door, which is legal; I was scared the guy would keep his promise and come back for me.

    As it turned out he was arrested a couple of weeks later, pleaded guilty and was sentenced to 10 years in prison.

    When my permit arrived in the mail, I stuck it in my wallet and pretty much forgot about it. I didn't start carrying a weapon. He was in jail and I moved to a less transitional neighborhood. I felt safe again.

    Nearly everyone I spend time with regularly has a visceral and fearful reaction to guns. Having so many gun-dreading friends and acquaintances has taught me to keep guns where no one will ever see them. Carrying a gun in public seemed like peeing in the sink of a public restroom. Not illegal, but definitely a first-degree jerk move.

    I was also afraid of the reaction of strangers. I would hate to be the subject of this 911 call: "Hello, police, I'm at the Publix on North Decatur Road and there's a swarthy bald man here with a gun. He's headed for the Lean Cuisine."

    So, although I had a permit, I was less than thrilled that the General Assembly passed H.B. 89 in April. The new law would give licensed firearms permit holders the right to legally carry guns into places that used to be off-limits: city and state parks, public transportation, and restaurants that serve alcohol.

    It seemed to me that the law encouraged colossal dickheadedness by legalizing behavior – carrying guns openly in public – that makes people nervous.

    Under the new law, I could now legally take my gun into a restaurant that served alcohol – which includes places many consider bars, such as the Earl or Manuel's Tavern. I could Rollerblade in Piedmont Park while packing heat. I could even take a gun on MARTA.

    Imagine if someone with a firearms license walked onto a MARTA train with a shotgun. He couldn't be arrested, even though someone can be ticketed for eating on a train.

    "So I just want to be clear," I asked MARTA police Chief Wanda Dunham. "If I had a turkey sandwich in one hand and a gun in the other hand, MARTA police would ticket me for the turkey sandwich?"

    "If you're eating it," she replied. "Only if you're eating it."

    Someone with a permit can board a MARTA train with a shotgun?

    "That's what the law says," she replied. Then, with sarcasm, she adds, "It just gives you that warm fuzzy feeling."

    The law, which was passed in the last hours of the Legislature, drew sharp criticism from anti-gun organizations. Brian Siebel, senior attorney at the Brady Center to Prev ent Gun Violence, says there will likely be more violence at places guns were once prohibited.

    He points out that Timothy McVeigh and Cho Seung-Hui, the Virginia Tech killer, both would have qualified for a firearm's license that allows you to carry a gun openly. "Just because you get a driver's license doesn't mean you're a good driver," he says. "People who engage in road rage probably all have a driver's license."

    The Georgia Restaurant Association lobbied against the law, even though it prohibits people with guns from consuming alcohol in a restaurant. The restaurateurs argued that it's impossible to determine whether someone drinking alcohol is also carrying a concealed weapon. "We didn't want the bill to pass," Keisha Carter, the association's director of public affairs, says. "Asking if you're 21 and if you have a concealed weapon should not be a responsibility of anyone in this industry."

    On July 1, the day the law went into effect, there was a showdown of sorts.

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    Default Re: Open Carry... And Loving It

    Thats a pretty good article...and shows how a little education can go a long way. However, I do have to take issue with this statement:

    "...one thing that surprised me was how quickly I became comfortable with it. But I don't think it's going to become a habit. It's still a big deal to carry a gun. Guns are intended to kill people, or at least to threaten to kill people. That's really not a message I want to convey, even if it's not the message people seem to get when they see me with a gun."

    There is the bias and the fundamental difference between pro-gun and pro-gun-control people: Guns are intended to protect myself, not necessarily kill people unless they are a direct threat to me. It was going well until that point...
    And don't think you're off the hook, voters, you're the ones who made this bed. Now you're the ones who are going to have to move over so a gay couple can sleep in it. Tomorrow you're all going to wake up in a brave new world, a world where the Constitution gets trampled by an army of terrorist clones, created in a stem-cell research lab run by homosexual doctors who sterilize their instruments over burning American flags. -- Stephen Colbert

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    Default Re: Open Carry... And Loving It

    Quote Originally Posted by US Militiaman View Post
    Thats a pretty good article...and shows how a little education can go a long way. However, I do have to take issue with this statement:

    "...one thing that surprised me was how quickly I became comfortable with it. But I don't think it's going to become a habit. It's still a big deal to carry a gun. Guns are intended to kill people, or at least to threaten to kill people. That's really not a message I want to convey, even if it's not the message people seem to get when they see me with a gun."

    There is the bias and the fundamental difference between pro-gun and pro-gun-control people: Guns are intended to protect myself, not necessarily kill people unless they are a direct threat to me. It was going well until that point...
    While I agree that guns should be thought of as a means to protect oneself, there is no refuting the fact that guns were developed with the sole purpose of ending lives...

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    Default Re: Open Carry... And Loving It

    Quote Originally Posted by US Militiaman View Post
    Thats a pretty good article...and shows how a little education can go a long way. However, I do have to take issue with this statement:

    "...one thing that surprised me was how quickly I became comfortable with it. But I don't think it's going to become a habit. It's still a big deal to carry a gun. Guns are intended to kill people, or at least to threaten to kill people. That's really not a message I want to convey, even if it's not the message people seem to get when they see me with a gun."

    There is the bias and the fundamental difference between pro-gun and pro-gun-control people: Guns are intended to protect myself, not necessarily kill people unless they are a direct threat to me. It was going well until that point...

    That negative stigma is SO ingrained in peoples minds by the media, public schools and leftist pop culture that even PRO-gun people have a tough time coming to grips with the reality that guns are 100% neutral tools.
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    you won't, I will not sit with my thumb up my bum and complain, because you will.
    Remember Meleanie

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