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    Default References question for CC

    I just wanted to find out if my references for concealed carry have to be PA residents. My friends are more on the anti-gun side and I don't feel comfortable asking any of them to be a reference. My husband and I have only lived in Philly for about a year and a half and our friend circle is pretty small. I have people in other states who would vouch for me.
    We are prior military and own a few firearms already. I would like to get a CC to feel safer when I'm by myself walking or biking from somewhere.

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    Default Re: References question for CC

    There's no requirement for them to be from Philadelphia, or Pennsylvania. Actually, they could probably even be from Canada or Mexico.

    More recently, however, I do believe that Philadelphia did away with the References issue altogether.

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    Default Re: References question for CC

    Philadelphia no longer requires you to provide references. If you do provide them, they will not be contacted.

    "As a result of the Settlement, the City will pay $1.425 million to the class and will be separately responsible for the costs of administering the settlement. Further, and of similar importance, the City has agreed to a number of policy changes, which can be found starting on page 11 of the Settlement Agreement, including:

    Not to disclose LTCF applicant information either electronically or in-person;
    Annual training of the Philadelphia Police Department and Philadelphia License and Inspection Board of Review on the confidentiality of LTCF applicant information;
    Customer service training for the Philadelphia Gun Permit Unit;
    Posting a copy of the LTCF Application Notice on its website and where LTCF applications and appeals can be submitted or obtained, as well as, providing a copy to anyone who has his/her LTCF denied or revoked;
    The City will not require references on the LTCF application and will not contact any references listed on the LTCF application;
    The City will not require lawful immigrants or US Citizens with a US Passport to provide naturalization papers;
    The City will not require any applicant to disclose whether he/she owns a firearm during the LTCF application process;
    The City will not deny an application because the applicant answered “no” to any question regarding whether the applicant had been charged/convicted of any crime where the applicant received a pardon or expungement from the charge or conviction;
    The City will process all LTCF applications within 45 calendar days;
    The City will remit $15.00 to any applicant who is denied within 20 days;
    The City will not require LTCF applicants or holders to disclose to law enforcement that they have an LTCF, that they are carrying a firearm or that they have a firearm in the vehicle; and
    The City will not confiscate an LTCF or firearm, unless there is probable cause that the LTCF or firearm is evidence of a crime. In the event an LTCF or firearm is confiscated, the officer must immediately provide a property receipt, which shall include the pertinent information" - http://blog.princelaw.com/2014/07/22...f-information/
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    Cool Re: References question for CC

    Quote Originally Posted by BallisticSheepDog76 View Post
    Philadelphia no longer requires you to provide references. If you do provide them, they will not be contacted.

    "As a result of the Settlement, the City will pay $1.425 million to the class and will be separately responsible for the costs of administering the settlement. Further, and of similar importance, the City has agreed to a number of policy changes, which can be found starting on page 11 of the Settlement Agreement, including:

    Not to disclose LTCF applicant information either electronically or in-person;
    Annual training of the Philadelphia Police Department and Philadelphia License and Inspection Board of Review on the confidentiality of LTCF applicant information;
    Customer service training for the Philadelphia Gun Permit Unit;
    Posting a copy of the LTCF Application Notice on its website and where LTCF applications and appeals can be submitted or obtained, as well as, providing a copy to anyone who has his/her LTCF denied or revoked;
    The City will not require references on the LTCF application and will not contact any references listed on the LTCF application;
    The City will not require lawful immigrants or US Citizens with a US Passport to provide naturalization papers;
    The City will not require any applicant to disclose whether he/she owns a firearm during the LTCF application process;
    The City will not deny an application because the applicant answered “no” to any question regarding whether the applicant had been charged/convicted of any crime where the applicant received a pardon or expungement from the charge or conviction;
    The City will process all LTCF applications within 45 calendar days;
    The City will remit $15.00 to any applicant who is denied within 20 days;
    The City will not require LTCF applicants or holders to disclose to law enforcement that they have an LTCF, that they are carrying a firearm or that they have a firearm in the vehicle; and
    The City will not confiscate an LTCF or firearm, unless there is probable cause that the LTCF or firearm is evidence of a crime. In the event an LTCF or firearm is confiscated, the officer must immediately provide a property receipt, which shall include the pertinent information" - http://blog.princelaw.com/2014/07/22...f-information/
    This, but send me a PM if you want a name to put on paper.

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    Default Re: References question for CC

    Thank you all for this information! I apologize for the delay, but I am appreciative nonetheless!

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    Default Re: References question for CC

    Thank you for the offer. I can't really open carry in the middle of downtown Philadelphia without attracting unwanted attention. I rather not have anyone know I am carrying. Plus, most of my friends are really anti-gun and that would just make them uncomfortable.

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    Default Re: References question for CC

    Quote Originally Posted by MissFrijole View Post
    Thank you for the offer. I can't really open carry in the middle of downtown Philadelphia without attracting unwanted attention. I rather not have anyone know I am carrying. Plus, most of my friends are really anti-gun and that would just make them uncomfortable.
    Get new better friends. Welcome to poofa
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    Default Re: References question for CC

    Quote Originally Posted by pacodelahoya View Post
    Get new better friends. Welcome to poofa
    What he said. Although I suspect if you start taking hen shooting with you, you well get converts.

    Thank you for taking on the responsabilties of a citizen.
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