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    Default Re: Battle Packs - the Poor Man's Version

    Quote Originally Posted by 762xIan View Post
    Moisture I can see.....there is a reason ammo gets surplused out. If a lot failed QC, I can see why we got it. Still, I have used a lot and I mean a LOT of battle pack ammo (belt feds get hungry) and have yet to have an issue myself.
    Apparently in the case of the German stuff it was a known problem with acidic cardboard and inks. Not something that was an immediate issue but over the years of sitting there, yes. In fact the recent lot of MEN that came into the country about 1.5 years ago that Sportsmans Guide had, had that issue with corrosion on the ammo, some severe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emptymag View Post

    Not sure what you mean by "just loose". An "emergency stash" of loose boxes?
    Sorry. Meant seal just the ammo without the boxes. More rounds in a bag and a much better chance of removing more air which means less moisture. And no way I would seal ammo in mags. For SHTF storage a few bags of your most popular ammo is really not a bad idea.

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    Default Re: Battle Packs - the Poor Man's Version

    Loose 5.56/.223 eventually punctures the bags.
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    Default Re: Battle Packs - the Poor Man's Version

    Quote Originally Posted by streaker69 View Post
    Loose 5.56/.223 eventually punctures the bags.
    Hmm. Maybe but I doubt it. I have more than a few UK green battle packs that are loose. But their plastic is thicker which is why I'm saying maybe.

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    Default Re: Battle Packs - the Poor Man's Version

    Quote Originally Posted by phillyd2 View Post
    Hmm. Maybe but I doubt it. I have more than a few UK green battle packs that are loose. But their plastic is thicker which is why I'm saying maybe.

    I'm talking about the bags that EM used in his example. Eventually the rounds will work a hole in them if they're jostled around like in a bag or in a car.
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    Default Re: Battle Packs - the Poor Man's Version

    Yeah, and more than that, I'd be concerned that bullets could become unseated/skewed by the pressure during the vacuum process.
    I've tried it on the "moist" and "gentle" settings, but it still really squeezes stuff pretty good.
    Perhaps a better version of the FoodSaver unit would allow for "softer" sealing.

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    Default Re: Battle Packs - the Poor Man's Version

    What about using some of the plastic boxes us reloaders use and vacuum sealing those? That would keep the ammo from coming in contact with the plastic vacuum bag.

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    Default Re: Battle Packs - the Poor Man's Version

    Quote Originally Posted by streaker69 View Post
    I'm talking about the bags that EM used in his example. Eventually the rounds will work a hole in them if they're jostled around like in a bag or in a car.
    My freezer bags are pretty thick and I think they even make heavier duty ones. Once sealed they should not move at all. But point taken and EM should try some & report back with pistol ammo that should be a non issue.

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    Default Re: Battle Packs - the Poor Man's Version

    Quote Originally Posted by phillyd2 View Post
    My freezer bags are pretty thick and I think they even make heavier duty ones. Once sealed they should not move at all. But point taken and EM should try some & report back with pistol ammo that should be a non issue.

    I have two bags of 120 rounds each that were completed sealed tight, both of them developed leaks, but the bags of 12G and 9mm didn't.
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    Default Re: Battle Packs - the Poor Man's Version

    Quote Originally Posted by streaker69 View Post
    I have two bags of 120 rounds each that were completed sealed tight, both of them developed leaks, but the bags of 12G and 9mm didn't.
    Did the bags break from the ammo?

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