Navy SEAL Emergency Reload Techniques Compared

**alpacaheat** · August 27th, 2015, 03:31 PM

http://concealedcarrymasterscourse.c...ques-compared/

**Steve in PA** · August 27th, 2015, 04:07 PM

(sarcasm on) But.....but......the "experts" say you cannot possibly hit that teeny, tiny, little slide stop/release under stress!! You can hit the mag release and properly press the trigger, but never, ever be able to manipulate the slide stop/release. (sarcasm off)

As to which method is best, use the one that you use the best. Learn and try both, but use the one that works for you.

**NathanB** · August 27th, 2015, 05:40 PM

I competition it is far faster to slide release from the slide lock lever than it is to rack by hand. Proven time and time again. I don't know how others react but it's substantially faster. I try to avoid slide lock if I can though

**IronButt** · August 27th, 2015, 06:13 PM

I'm an old fart & learned on the 1911, so the slide release method is what I've always used. I even put the extended slide releases on both of my Glocks because sometimes they're easy to miss.

**Black Sheep** · August 27th, 2015, 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by Steve in PA

(sarcasm on) But.....but......the "experts" say you cannot possibly hit that teeny, tiny, little slide stop/release under stress!! You can hit the mag release and properly press the trigger, but never, ever be able to manipulate the slide stop/release. (sarcasm off)

I don't buy the "fine motor skills go out the window" argument either, but I prefer the overhand rack/slingshot method for a different reason - muscle memory. It's the same motion I use for dealing with malfunctions (tap, rack, bang), so no matter why the gun hasn't gone bang, I'm bringing my support hand up to the magwell and then overhand racking the slide.

**bigandy1966** · August 27th, 2015, 08:11 PM

practice practice practice.

**pennlineman** · August 27th, 2015, 08:33 PM

Could never find the love for the overhand method. Slide release is much quicker for me anyways. Never found it difficult to move thumb from mag release to slide release while inserting a new magazine. Although the slide releases on Glocks are kind of pitiful.

**dgg9** · August 27th, 2015, 08:36 PM

Originally Posted by Steve in PA

(sarcasm on) But.....but......the "experts" say you cannot possibly hit that teeny, tiny, little slide stop/release under stress!! You can hit the mag release and properly press the trigger, but never, ever be able to manipulate the slide stop/release. (sarcasm off)

I wouldn't say it's impossible. It might be problematic on some guns (Glock's slide stop), say if your hands are covered in water or sweat and blood, or cold or whatever. My main objection (to the limited extent I care about this) is: it's an EXTRA technique, not strictly necessary. It is necessary to be able to rack the slide. This is a surplus movement, used to optimize one case (to be sure, it does optimize that case). It's true that in classes and maybe in competition, you're doing a lot of slide lock reloads. I wonder how often they happen in real life.

**unclejumbo** · August 27th, 2015, 08:42 PM

The only benefit I can find to the overhand is if a shooter carries several different handguns. Each will have the slide release in a slightly different place, have a slightly different feel etc.

I have always preferred the slide release over the slide grasp. Of course, there were a lot of "experts" that tried to make users of the slide release feel like they were doing something wrong.

Of course the best I've found is smacking the fresh magazine in so hard that the slide takes care of itself. Nothing like some ham handed gun operation.

**dgg9** · August 27th, 2015, 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by unclejumbo

The only benefit I can find to the overhand is if a shooter carries several different handguns.

The benefit happens if you believe that a hard rack is more reliable, across varying self defense conditions, than using the slide stop. I doubt that can be proven in the range, with a shooter who is expecting to do this, under good conditions. It's not really a fine vs gross motor skill issue, IMO, it's that you need leverage to make this work.

The other factor that the video seems to be assuming is that this fraction of a second will be important. The scenario here is a self defense shooting where you've shot the gun dry, you're not behind cover, and are still being shot at, 8 - 18 rounds later.