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June 21st, 2015, 06:22 PM #1
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June 21st, 2015, 07:02 PM #2
Re: Tonight on Dateline at 8 o'clock. Propaganda I'm sure
I think it's a repeat.
Stupid kids meme time!
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Re: Tonight on Dateline at 8 o'clock. Propaganda I'm sure
Why bother watching it? It's gonna be same old bullshit, putting guns in toyboxes and around a playground and shit.
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June 21st, 2015, 09:59 PM #4
Re: Tonight on Dateline at 8 o'clock. Propaganda I'm sure
Or the one where they are told to never touch, call an adult, and one boy picks it up and handles it instead.
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June 21st, 2015, 10:12 PM #5
Re: Tonight on Dateline at 8 o'clock. Propaganda I'm sure
They trained young kids using NRA Eddie Eagle-type methods, and then tested them. The kids were sent into a room unsupervised to get snacks off a table. The gun was partially hidden on the table. Most of the kids picked it up and swept each other, often with their fingers on the trigger. You couldn't help but cringe, watching the way they handled it. One kid even tried to rack the slide and then pulled the trigger.
Then they trained some other kids using a different method. Instead of just talking about the safety rules (stop don't touch, leave the area, tell an adult), they ran the kids through multiple roll-playing exercises where they actually went through the motions. Those kids did much better in the test.
Yeah, I was expecting pure propaganda too, but this was interesting. I'm an NRA-certified Home Firearms Safety instructor, and if there's a better way to teach the Eddie Eagle rules, then we ought to know about it. I don't see anything wrong with that.
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June 21st, 2015, 11:33 PM #6
Re: Tonight on Dateline at 8 o'clock. Propaganda I'm sure
See my dad had a version of Eddie eagle. Go in your parents' room and get beat. We never thought about going in there. Certainly would not touch his guns, oh he'll no! I guess that's not P.C. is it?
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June 21st, 2015, 11:48 PM #7
Re: Tonight on Dateline at 8 o'clock. Propaganda I'm sure
I don't know what is taught now. I was taught from an early age that you treat every firearm like it is loaded and can hurt/kill someone. I was also taught how to clear a gun and make it safe from the time I was interested in them, maybe 7 or 8. The way my dad drilled that into me, even as a kid anytime I picked up any gun I opened the action and made it safe. That's the way I'm teaching my daughter. Kids will show a natural curiosity with firearms, or anything that is taboo to them in any way. I know at my house there isn't really any access to my guns, unless I'm there. I can't say that when she goes to any other kids house so I would rather her know how they work.
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June 22nd, 2015, 05:53 AM #8
Re: Tonight on Dateline at 8 o'clock. Propaganda I'm sure
It's dateline on NBC, land of Brian Williams and fraud. I have no doubt that many kids were used and they cherry picked the ones to use in the report to support their intended conclusion. It's what Liberals and NBC do.
Its easier to fool people than to convince them they've been fooled....Mark Twain
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June 22nd, 2015, 08:27 AM #9
Re: Tonight on Dateline at 8 o'clock. Propaganda I'm sure
I was taught the, "Dont touch the gun unless you ask permission first or I'll break your fucking hands" method. If I ever wanted to see or handle a gun, all I had to do is ask. Mom and dad NEVER hesitated to allow it, so at a point my curiosity went away.
I've done the same thing with my girl friend's kids of past and present. The current GF's kid wore out his curiosity with a month. ....and he LOVES guns. Only when I get a new one does he ask to see/handle it.RIP: SFN, 1861, twoeggsup, Lambo, jamesjo, JayBell, 32 Magnum, Pro2A, mrwildroot, dregan, Frenchy, Fragger, ungawa, Mtn Jack, Grapeshot, R.W.J., PennsyPlinker, Statkowski, Deanimator, roland, aubie515, SteveWag
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June 22nd, 2015, 06:15 PM #10
Re: Tonight on Dateline at 8 o'clock. Propaganda I'm sure
I guess my thread title search foo is on the fritz as I initiated a thread same subject. Skip to my second paragraph regarding gun ownership inquiry..
It's NBC, so it did have an overall anti-gun feel to it though there was no overt anti-gun rhetoric that I noticed. The program demonstrated through hidden cams how young kids and teens react in the presence of a handgun when unsupervised. The pre-teen and teen groups mostly performed badly—that is to say unsafely, despite (in the case of the younger kids) recently receiving specific training on how not to touch a gun and to seek an adult if one is encountered. Regarding the older teens, despite some having gun safety training and firearms experience and parents who were reportedly gun owners, they weren't much better and sometimes worse. In any case, the take away was to implore gun owners to keep their guns securely locked away around children and teens and to begin talking to kids about gun safety beginning at age five. Again, the underlying theme seemed to be that guns are really dangerous and kids must learn to be afraid of them although again, there was no overt anti-gun narrative.
They also advised..and I've been hearing/seeing a gubment PSA advising this too, to inquire of your child's friends parents if they have a gun in their home before allowing their child over, and if so, if it is properly secured. I don't reject this out-of-hand as there is no shortage of morons out there and I remember as a kid of about ten being at a friend's house when his parents weren't home and he whipped out his stepfather's loaded .38 from under a mattress and waved it around. So, though I've never been asked, if I where, I would politely tell the concerned parent that I don't disclose my gun ownership status but if I did have a gun in the home I could assure them it would be secure and not present any danger to their child. Anyone have experience asking or being asked about this?"Everyone is entitled to my opinion." - Gman106
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