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April 21st, 2015, 10:12 AM #11
Re: Ugh...Superior Court Strikes Again
Sure thing, and this ruling made it law of the land. PA's Superior Court rulings are binding precedence for all lower courts, across the entire Commonwealth.
Only a PA Supreme Court, US 3rd Circuit, or US Supreme Court ruling could undo this via judicial opinion. (there might be another Appeals court in there somewhere though)RIP: SFN, 1861, twoeggsup, Lambo, jamesjo, JayBell, 32 Magnum, Pro2A, mrwildroot, dregan, Frenchy, Fragger, ungawa, Mtn Jack, Grapeshot, R.W.J., PennsyPlinker, Statkowski, Deanimator, roland, aubie515
Don't end up in my signature!
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April 21st, 2015, 10:14 AM #12
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April 21st, 2015, 11:10 AM #13
Re: Ugh...Superior Court Strikes Again
I've been with the same company for quite a long time. I know many people there that keep a firearm locked in their vehicle. Hell, during hunting season I would bet better than half the cars have a firearm in them. Even though they have a policy, it has always operated on a "don't ask don't tell" kinda policy. I've never seen a car searched for a weapon.
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April 21st, 2015, 03:10 PM #14
Re: Ugh...Superior Court Strikes Again
Meanwhile in Tennessee
Tennessee governor amends 'Guns in Parking Lots' law to protect workers
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015...-workers-from/
/Socialism is for the people, not the socialists - Andrew Wilkow
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April 21st, 2015, 03:25 PM #15Grand Member
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Re: Ugh...Superior Court Strikes Again
This. Right here. This, this, this.
There are good arguments against forcing employers to allow employers to store particular kinds of goods in parked cars on their property, firearms or otherwise. (There may also be good arguments for forcing them to allow stored firearms, since firearms are arguably a special class of object which should enjoy particular exceptions.)
But there is NO good argument against forcing employers or other persons controlling circumstances or venues to assume liability when they deliberately and affirmatively disarm others.I am not a lawyer. Nothing I say or write is legal advice.
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April 21st, 2015, 03:31 PM #16
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We need this law in PA...
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015...-workers-from/Socialist Liberals Suck!
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April 21st, 2015, 08:49 PM #17Senior Member
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Re: Ugh...Superior Court Strikes Again
Here is another twist....
Federal Law prohibits "weapons" on federal property ( says so on signs at the doors to federal offices). If a Federal agency rents commercial office space they consider the rental space "Federal Property" including the parking lot even if they only rent one office out of dozens. We were briefed that we could not have weapons in the parking lot. I replied that a car could be a "weapon" and asked what was considered "a weapon". My boss said he was only required to brief us on what the building signs meant. I never got an answer and I don't think any one in the building knows what a "weapon" is. I keep enough tools in my car to keep it running. I would consider my tire iron, any hammer, some large wrenches, and a small folding shovel could be considered a weapon. I am not trying to be a pain here but,
How crazy can this go??Last edited by Mush; April 21st, 2015 at 09:02 PM.
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April 21st, 2015, 09:30 PM #18
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Actually the Federal statute forbidding having weapons applies only to"Federal Facilities" (18 USC 930). This only applies to within qualifying buildings - not external parking lots or other properties outside the facilty. I'm not aware of any US Code blanket proscription on Federal properties.
18 USC §930. Possession of firearms and dangerous weapons in Federal facilities
(a) Except as provided in subsection (d), whoever knowingly possesses or causes to be present a firearm or other dangerous weapon in a Federal facility (other than a Federal court facility), or attempts to do so, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 1 year, or both.
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(g) As used in this section:
(1) The term "Federal facility" means a building or part thereof owned or leased by the Federal Government, where Federal employees are regularly present for the purpose of performing their official duties.
There are certain Federal agencies that, by regulation, ban weapons extending to their properties beyond their buildings - post office property, VA property, ACE property to name a few.IANAL
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April 21st, 2015, 09:56 PM #19Senior Member
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Re: Ugh...Superior Court Strikes Again
"(g) As used in this section:
(1) The term "Federal facility" means a building or part thereof owned or leased by the Federal Government, where Federal employees are regularly present for the purpose of performing their official duties."
So would "part thereof" mean the parking lot if it were part of the lease? The wording of the lease could specify office and parking space for employees, ... and would this mean the non federal employees who also work in that office and use the same parking lot and be held to the same law?
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April 21st, 2015, 10:24 PM #20
Re: Ugh...Superior Court Strikes Again
Bottom line, though, is that federal law posted at the entrance to a VA cemetery creates a situation wherein the law effectively disarms one between home and cemetery and return home. That is not righteous.
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