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    Default Bi-partisan background check bill introduced in U.S. House

    It’s been a few years since a bi-partisan attempt at passing a universal background check system has seen the light of day, but a coalition within the U.S. House of Representatives comprised of members from both sides of the aisle is giving it another shot.

    A bill was introduced in the House on Wednesday which aims to close background check loopholes in the purchase of firearms in the country, officials said.

    Written by representatives Pete King, R-New York, and Mike Thompson, D-California, HR 1217 will expand the background check system to encompass the commercial sale of all firearms, including those sold at gun shows, through the Internet and in classified ads.

    It will strengthen the National Instant Criminal Background Check System by incentivizing states to improve their reporting through federal grand dollars, includes exceptions for family and friend transfers and will form a commission to examine incidents of mass violence in the country, according to a press release from Thompson’s office.

    The Public Safety and Second Amendment Rights Protection Act of 2015 is identical to the Manchin-Toomey bill that failed in 2013 in that proponents say it’s meant to keep guns out of the hands of criminals and the mentally ill. The National Rifle Association has said a universal background check system would put an undo burden on law-abiding gun owners.

    The group had a similar quarrel with the other bi-partisan attempt at background check legislation, drafted by West Virginia Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin and Republican Sen. Pat Toomey.

    An article referencing the NRA’s involvement in that effort quickly drew vitriol from the gun rights group the same day it was published.

    “NRA does NOT support universal background checks and is not working with Manchin to implement this type of legislation. NRA opposes, and will continue to oppose, universal background checks and registration schemes,” The NRA’s Chris Cox wrote in a 2013 statement.

    Thompson and King were both given Ds on the NRA’s Political Victory Fund report card – a system that rates political candidates on their voting record as it pertains to gun rights issues – during the last election cycle.

    Both Thompson and King voted against an amendment in 2014 that passed the House by a 60-point margin and would prohibit the District of Columbia from implementing certain firearm laws, according to Project Vote Smart, a nonpartisan political research organization. The two also voted against a concealed carry reciprocity bill in 2011, which passed the House by 118 votes and went to the Senate Committee on the Judiciary. In 2010, when a bill was introduced exempting guns from an estate for bankruptcy proceedings, the two voted in support.

    That’s not to say the two have always seen eye-to-eye on gun-related legislation. In 2008, while Thompson voted in favor of killing portions of the D.C. firearm ban – namely, with the repeal of both the registration requirement and ammunition ban, in addition to the removal of criminal penalties for possession of unregistered firearms – King opposed the repeals bill, according to political data.

    A few years earlier, Thompson supported a bill seeking to reform the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, while King voted against it. The same year, 2006, the two took the same positions on an amendment to prevent funds for trigger lock enforcement.

    Because King has shown he’s willing to reach across the aisle, it’s no surprise the NRA has given him such a poor political score. The New York native has said he’s considering a bid in the 2016 presidential race, if only to keep isolationist Republicans like Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul and Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas from taking his party away from what he called realistic foreign policy and national security priorities.

    The new background check legislation was co-authored by a bipartisan House coalition made up of representatives Mike Fitzpatrick, R-Pennsylvania, Pat Meehan, R-Pennsylvania, Bob Dold, R-Illinois, Bennie Thompson, D-Mississippi, Elizabeth Esty, D-Connecticut and Kathleen Rice, D-New York.

    Thompson, King and the NRA could not be reached for comment by article publication

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    Default Re: Bi-partisan background check bill introduced in U.S. House

    Quote Originally Posted by Neilthepilot View Post
    background check loopholes
    There are no loopholes! The only loophole is being a criminal and buying/selling on a street corner!

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    exceptions for family and friend transfers
    I'd like to see how the law will define who is deemed a "friend" in this case and how you're supposed to prove the person is your friend. I can see ads on the forum saying that you must meet at the bar and have a drink together before selling a rifle.

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    Default Re: Bi-partisan background check bill introduced in U.S. House

    Peter king r New York
    Not bipartisan in reality

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    Default Re: Bi-partisan background check bill introduced in U.S. House

    Finally, someone is doing something to get all those illegal guns out of the hands of criminals!

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    Default Re: Bi-partisan background check bill introduced in U.S. House

    Quote Originally Posted by steve_010 View Post
    I'd like to see how the law will define who is deemed a "friend" in this case and how you're supposed to prove the person is your friend.
    I'd like to never see another word of this.

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    Default Re: Bi-partisan background check bill introduced in U.S. House

    Background checks only hinder the law abiding, which is exactly their goal.

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    Even though meehan, who is a co writer of this legislation and my representative, I believe this proposal will either fail or have enough pro gun additives that it will create a poison pill making support by the original sponsors impossible. needless to say I will be contacting my not so smart representative in this matter

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    Default Re: Bi-partisan background check bill introduced in U.S. House

    how about someone introduce a real 3 strikes and your out bill where a violent criminal's head is separated from his body after the third offense.

    people like that cant be rehabilitated and i have a feeling that bill would do more to curb the gun violence "problem"

    would probably help the rape problem, home invasion problem, welfare problem, etc as well
    Montani Semper Liberi

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    Default Re: Bi-partisan background check bill introduced in U.S. House

    If the republicans, who are supporting or sponsoring this legislation, think for a second they are going to pick up votes from otherwise anti minded democrats, they will be in for an unpleasant surprise. This though, would not apply to Peter King, who should be a democrat and is looked upon as such.

    The republican majority leadership in the House must tread lightly on this proposal. There is already a division in the party in general.

    The ambiguous wording in this proposal, if passed, would be revisited a short time later and made very restrictive with no room for differing interpretation. But for now, they will throw any crap against the wall just to see something stick.

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    Ah Peter King. He never saw a Democratic policy he didn't like.

    This is going no where in the house.

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