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    Are they purposely trying to start some shit? Don't Rinos like Meehan know we're not going to put up with crap any longer? Who the hell is he catering to, Ceasefire and the mole woman?
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    Quote Originally Posted by arjohnson View Post
    Rifles yes, I've always had to go through a background check since I've bought handguns which started in 1988 when I was old enough. It was not the NICS system but paper work was sent in and there was a 5 day waiting period.
    Does anyone know what year background checks for private sales of handguns were instituted?

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    I know in 1980 the local police did the approving. I'm pretty sure it started with the unconstitutional infringement 1968 Gun Control Act that was a verbatim law of the 1933 Nazi German Gun Laws.
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    Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JenniferG View Post
    I know in 1980 the local police did the approving. I'm pretty sure it started with the unconstitutional infringement 1968 Gun Control Act that was a verbatim law of the 1933 Nazi German Gun Laws.
    Federal requirement for background checks started 20 years ago with the Brady Bill. Prior to that I think only some states had laws that required them. Apparently, PA was one of them.

    The Brady Bill is a federal background check "loophole." Congress knew it would be unconstitutional and impossible for the federal government to require Citizens to pass a federal background check (get permission from the federal government) to obtain a firearm. The best they could do is exploit a loophole, and have their FFLs that they licensed previously under Interstate Commerce (lies) be required to perform the check if you bought a gun from an FFL.

    Background checks ARE the loophole. For an unconstitutional behavior.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JenniferG View Post
    I know in 1980 the local police did the approving. I'm pretty sure it started with the unconstitutional infringement 1968 Gun Control Act that was a verbatim law of the 1933 Nazi German Gun Laws.
    This is how I remember it, if I recall correctly there was more than 1 filled out for handguns, I think it was 3. I know one went to the sheriff, can't remember where the others went.

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    I bought my first pistol(Model 28 .357) in Texas, at 18 in 1975. It was a face to face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NathanB View Post
    Peter king r New York
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    Thank you. Mr. King is as much a Republican as Mike Bloomberg.

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    I wrote Rep. Fitzpatrick to ask why he now supports HR 1217 and why he did not sign the M855 letter.

    That was last week, still nothing!

    Time to start writing boys and girls! We have to keep the pressure on. If not us then who?
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    Quote Originally Posted by arjohnson View Post
    This is how I remember it, if I recall correctly there was more than 1 filled out for handguns, I think it was 3. I know one went to the sheriff, can't remember where the others went.
    The background check was only for handguns and there was a waiting period. I forget if it was 3 or 5 days. Right after I got off active duty in 1980 I purchased a new 45 Colt MK IV 70 Series. I remember the Marple Township cop that was in charge of the background checks called on the last day of the waiting period and gave me some crap about committing a crime in California. The only problem with that is at that point I had never been in California. I told him look pal I just got off active duty from the US Navy and I'll be right down to have him show me the paperwork on that. About 30 minutes later the gun shop called me and said I could come pick up my gun.

    When I got to the gun shop I asked the gun shop owner what the cop had said to him because I talked to the owner right after I spoke to the officer. The cop told him he had spelled my name wrong or something along that line. Yeah, OK. I started early not taking bullshit from anyone. I guard my right to own a firearm jealously and if I get a bit testy with leftist/socialist/rino gun grabbers this incident with this Marple Township Police officer can be directly attributed to my somewhat hostile reaction.

    With long guns you just filled out a 4473 and you were on your way.

    I've basically had it with all this background check bullshit. It's a fake, phony and fraud. There is absolutely no provision in the US Constitution or the PA Constitution for any of this. Only the complete and total repeal of the Gun Control Act, the Brady Law and all the other bullshit laws that infringe on my right to own whatever gun I chose will do.

    See, I would have been in fatty pocketball player's face down at the park yesterday. I have a guardian angel that watches over this Irish tempered girl.
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