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    I had a handgun stolen last night. I called in the report this morning when I discovered it but was not near my paperwork. When I got to my paperwork to call in the serial number, the officer had already entered it into the report. How did he get it? Also, when I was calling gun shops to see if anyone had come in with it I was told that they do not run serial numbers. Is this the case? Is the serial number part of the background check, and if not how would the officer have gotten mine? If I'm to believe the gun shop owner I spoke to, the thief will be able to sell the gun without an issues? It will only be flagged if it is run by a LEO? Should I basically never expect to see it again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TommyJefferson View Post
    I had a handgun stolen last night. I called in the report this morning when I discovered it but was not near my paperwork. When I got to my paperwork to call in the serial number, the officer had already entered it into the report. How did he get it? Also, when I was calling gun shops to see if anyone had come in with it I was told that they do not run serial numbers. Is this the case? Is the serial number part of the background check, and if not how would the officer have gotten mine? If I'm to believe the gun shop owner I spoke to, the thief will be able to sell the gun without an issues? It will only be flagged if it is run by a LEO? Should I basically never expect to see it again?
    If you bought the gun in PA, then your serial number was entered into the "not a registry" that the PSP illegally maintains.
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    Quote Originally Posted by streaker69 View Post
    If you bought the gun in PA, then your serial number was entered into the "not a registry" that the PSP illegally maintains.
    Correct.

    And no, FFLs do not include the serial number as part of the PICS check. There is no gun identifier except on the 4473 that the FFL maintains. As Streaker said, when you buy a handgun, you also fill out a PA State Police form that is labeled a "Record of Sale" that is sent to PSP about every ten days. That is entered into "not a registry" record of sale database.
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    That gun will likely see a police officer before it sees an ffl. When it's used in a crime, or found in a car, or ditched after a shooting, or ditched after a robbery. Etc.

    Where it will end up in an evidence locker for an undetermined period of time. And if the numbers are still on it, maybe... You'll get a call.

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    Not that a thief would necessarily follow the law to sell/get rid of - but if its an older CZ like a 52 or similar, it's also C&R so they can sell it to someone with a C&R license and avoid a regular ffl all together. The C&R holder can just buy it, log it in his journal, and done. Sucks to have it stolen, but other than a miracle, I'd say it's long gone
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