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    Default Carbon Co concealed Carry Permit Question

    Hello All,

    I have a couple questions regarding the rules in carbon county for obtaining a concealed Carry permit. I unfortunately allowed my license to carry expire about 10 months ago and would like to renew it now.

    Question 1: Does the sheriffs rule about having in county resident references apply to renewals? I am in a similar situation to many on this forum in that I have many references available, but I do not have any in carbon county. The two references I had when I first obtained my license in carbon county have moved out of the county.

    Question 2: If in county references are needed for renewals, has anyone found a work around for the rule imposed by the sheriff?

    Thanks in advance for your help.

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    Default Re: Carbon Co concealed Carry Permit Question

    The LTCF application form and process was created by the PA State Police per the Uniform Firearms Act

    Sheriffs have zero power or authority to make, edit or set their own rules

    Your references can be from anywhere in the world as long as they are "not family".

    Submit your application and if the Sheriff has an issue, ask him to point out in statute or on the OFFICIAL 1 PAGE application where it states they must be in county

    hint: its not
    Last edited by BimmerJon; December 14th, 2014 at 11:26 PM.

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    Default Re: Carbon Co concealed Carry Permit Question

    Thanks and I completely agree. But from what I've read, carbon county won't accept the application if the references are out of county. Everything I read so far is in reference to new applications. I was hoping there might be some leniency on renewals.

    Thanks again.

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    Default Re: Carbon Co concealed Carry Permit Question

    Quote Originally Posted by Jwh1972 View Post
    Thanks and I completely agree. But from what I've read, carbon county won't accept the application if the references are out of county. Everything I read so far is in reference to new applications. I was hoping there might be some leniency on renewals.

    Thanks again.
    New applications and renewals are treated in the same exact way.
    There is no difference

    You seem to be aware of what the law states and what is legally required of you.
    You also seem to be aware that the Sheriff is breaking the law.
    Sheriff has no authority to refuse your application

    Next steps are up to you

    Let us know if you need any more info

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    Default Re: Carbon Co concealed Carry Permit Question

    Thanks. I may try to submit it with my out of county references and take it from there.

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    Default Re: Carbon Co concealed Carry Permit Question

    Quote Originally Posted by Jwh1972 View Post
    Thanks. I may try to submit it with my out of county references and take it from there.
    Gunlawyer001 posts on this a lot

    If they refuse it, you an file a compliant as "constructive denial" or something

    Quote Originally Posted by GunLawyer001 View Post
    There is no legal sense in which something can be a mandatory part of your application, without it being part of your application. That sounds like one of those useless sentences, but it's what some counties are trying to do by adding pages or fees or hoops to the process.

    The process is required to be uniform, the application is provided by the state. Any deviation from that is unlawful and illegal.
    ."
    Good luck!

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