Straw purchase or not?

[Manxdriver]

Just get married and you'll have no problems at all.

You need to get hit REPEATEDLY with the ban hammer for that post!!

[BimmerJon]

Sorry, I am with Pete (in the minority I guess). I'm not a lawyer, armchair or otherwise but I know what a straw purchase is. Start citing law book section numbers and you lose me. There is also no crime called "Rolling Stop" but we all know what that means too.

Of course, I also don't get my panties in a bunch if someone refers to their LTCF as a Permit, or if they call the bullet holding thing in their gun as a Clip rather than a Magazine.

There just seem to be more important things to worry about in life.

This laziness of just making up words seems harmless... Until these made up words get printed into poorly written and legally binding laws.

Assault rifle, assault gun, assault weapon, etc who cares right?
All the same? Yea, until "assault weapon" was put into law which described pretty much any rifle with black paint on it for a decade of our lives.

Tomato tomoto is fine... Until the language laziness makes your vegetable garden illegal

[Grey Bearded One]

No it would not. Again, "straw purchase" doesn't exist.

The correct term is "straw man purchase" and it isn't a political term but one that has been used in legal and debating circles for many years. Straw man refers to something that isn't what it seems to be.

Sadly, neither the public nor the journalists are smart enough to use the correct phrase.

[BimmerJon]

The correct term is "straw man purchase" and it isn't a political term but one that has been used in legal and debating circles for many years. Straw man refers to something that isn't what it seems to be.

Sadly, neither the public nor the journalists are smart enough to use the correct phrase.

Agreed and reinforces my point even further.
Unofficial and poorly used/understood words should not be used in formal conversations/proceedings.

I'll give you a dollar for each time you find the wording in federal or state PA statute.

[Grey Bearded One]

I'll give you a dollar for each time you find the wording in federal or state PA statute.

The term "running a red light" isn't used in any statute either.

[tl_3237]

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I'll give you a dollar for each time you find the wording in federal or state PA statute.

Agree -- I've never seen it as part of a Federal/state prohibiting statute.

It does appear, however, in the enabling statutes (18 Pa CS §6181-6187) for the establishment of the "Straw Purchase Prevention Education Program".

[Grey Bearded One]

I'd like to know why stupid people turned "straw man purchase" which makes sense into "straw purchase" which makes no sense.

[tl_3237]

I'd like to know why stupid people turned "straw man purchase" which makes sense into "straw purchase" which makes no sense.

Guess SCOTUS didn't get the memo (N.B. particularly the second reference to "the straw" as one who performs a "straw purchase") :

To ensure the accuracy of those submissions, a federal statute imposes criminal penalties on any person who, in connection with a firearm's acquisition, makes false statements about "any fact material to the lawfulness of the sale." 18 U.S.C. § 922(a)(6). In this case, we consider how that law applies to a so-called straw purchaser — namely, a person who buys a gun on someone else's behalf while falsely claiming that it is for himself. We hold that such a misrepresentation is punishable under the statute, whether or not the true buyer could have purchased the gun without the straw.

Abramski v. US, 134 S. Ct. 2259 - Supreme Court 2014