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Thread: Building an AR15 Pistol
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November 1st, 2016, 04:48 PM #31
Re: Building an AR15 Pistol
1. Correct, you can build it as you please without paperwork, except for an SBR.
2. The receiver is the "firearm", it will be on the FFL's boundbook. If it is transferred to you as a bare/virgin receiver it will be marked on the 4473 form as "other firearm", which you need to be 21 to receive(just like handguns, pistol grip only shotguns, NFA, etc).
3. No, it does NOT need to go through a FFL. PA's definition of a "firearm" requires certain measurements, of which a barrel length. If it doesn't have a barrel, and was never made into a PA defined "firearm" on it's original build status - it can be bought/sold like a long gun.RIP: SFN, 1861, twoeggsup, Lambo, jamesjo, JayBell, 32 Magnum, Pro2A, mrwildroot, dregan, Frenchy, Fragger, ungawa, Mtn Jack, Grapeshot, R.W.J., PennsyPlinker, Statkowski, Deanimator, roland, aubie515
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March 29th, 2018, 07:21 AM #32Junior Member
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Re: Building an AR15 Pistol
this question sort of came up about ar pistols. i understand from this thread if you have a virgin reciever you dont need to register it as a pistol with the PSP, correct?
considering the current political climate, and the wolfes supposed push for banning ar15s and other 'weapons of war', does the same hold true for 80% lowers you manufacture yourself, as in, since they arent registered at all, do we still need to legally let the PSP know about them?
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March 29th, 2018, 10:34 AM #33
Re: Building an AR15 Pistol
1. PA does NOT have a registry - it is prohibited by state law.
1a. PA has a Record of Sale database containing every handgun sale, or longarm sale by a dealer, taking place in PA.
2. If you bring any guns into PA when you move here, PA knows nothing about them.
3. As there is no registry, there is no reason to tell PA about anything you build.
4. Laws may change, but the above points are accurate as of this posting.
IANAL
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March 29th, 2018, 02:35 PM #34
Re: Building an AR15 Pistol
Still a little unclear about the law.
An 80% lower into a rifle - good to go.
ANY pistol is supposed to be transferred. So, if I build my 80% into a pistol instead of a rifle, does that now required a serial number and transfer to myself like every other pistol...or being an 80% build it's OK not to? The pistol aspect of it is what's not clear to me.
Basically, are we ONLY allowed to build rifles out of 80% lowers?
Of course, the intention of an 80% at all is that it's never found by them.Galations 6:9...And let us not grow weary of doing good, for in due season we will reap, if we do not give up.
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March 29th, 2018, 03:15 PM #35
Re: Building an AR15 Pistol
Actually, any transfer of a handgun (a 6102 defined "firearm", which includes SBR's) between non-FFL's within PA is supposed to go through an FFL. If there's no transfer, that statute doesn't apply. Same as if you gave or sold a gun to your dad who also lives in PA, no FFL intervention is required.
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March 29th, 2018, 10:16 PM #36
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May 9th, 2018, 02:02 AM #37Junior Member
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Re: Building an AR15 Pistol
Any FFL worth their salt knows that a strpped lower is classified as "other". Their is no such thing as a pistol or rifle lower.
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May 9th, 2018, 08:00 AM #38Super Member
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September 3rd, 2019, 09:28 PM #39Junior Member
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Re: Building an AR15 Pistol
Actually, there is no ROS database for the sale of long guns. If a transfer does take place the FFL does not fill out an ROS form. When an FFL transfers a long gun the serial number goes into the 4473 but is not transmitted to PSP. The only information collected by PSP during a long gun transfer is the information on the buyer in order to pass a PICS check.
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