AR Setup Advice

[esh21167]

Have an AR on layaway and after a little research am in need a little advice on BUIS and a red dot.

1: Flip up BUIS. There are way too many options available for these, lol. Are the Magpul polymer ones any good? They are pretty inexpensive compared to most everything else, but I'm a little reluctant to go with plastic. Are there any other reasonably prices BUIS out there (around $100-$125 for front & rear)?

2: A Primary Arms or Vortex StrikeFire red dot with the option of possibly adding the PA 3x magnifier with the flip mount. I've heard good things about both for the price. I know there are better brands, but an ACOG, VCOG, even an Eotech or Aimpoint is just too high for my starter budget.

The flip mount would likely place a magnifier over the rear folding BUIS. Then it could be flipped to the side to deploy the BUIS. Or would it be a better idea to just have solid iron sights and co-witness? Which may bring up the issue of eye relief for the magnifier or even having enough rail for mounting everything. Input is appreciated. Thanks.

Here's the pic from the PA site for about what I'm considering.
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[animalmother85]

The plastic magpul sights are fine. If you want metal, look at thier MBUS Pro.

[TheRealDonJohnson]

+1 for the Mbus pro theyre very durable and high quality metal sights. If you look around you can pick up the combo for around your budget. I hate to say it, but I snagged my set on Ebay, for $130. To give you an idea of how low pro they are:

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PSA has them on sale from time to time as well. I would also skip the magnifier and stick with either a PA red dot or a variable low power 1-4 or something.

[esh21167]

Looked online at the MBUS Pro's. They are extremely low profile. I see they aren't that much more than the poly ones either. Huge difference between vendors. A couple have each piece at $125ish, others have the set for that price. Are they spring loaded?

I think I know why you advise against the magnifier. That magnifies the dot also, which I can see as undesirable.

[TheRealDonJohnson]

The Mbus Pros are not spring loaded so you have to deploy them and put them down manually, however they have a sturdy detent if thats what uou call it, that keeps them up or down. The reason I advise against the magnifier and red dot setup is because of the weight. My buddy has the Eotech XPS/G33 combo on a rifle similar to mine and the weight is up there. Ive also heard mixed things regarding the red dot magnifier combo like parallax, change in POA/POI, etc. So if it were me I would just go with a 1-4 variable that will weigh the same as the red dot magnifier combo and work better if it has a true 1x. As for the Mbus Pro, I think theyre one of the better BUIS on the market today...

[esh21167]

Got it on the points against the red dot magnifier. So that brings up the question of a reasonably price 1-4x optic ($300 or less). Are there any? Like POSP's for AK's. And any that may also include a red dot? I recall seeing something like that at an LGS awhile ago, but I think it was a pretty cheesy NC Star with multiple red/green dot reticles AND a laser for about $200. Certainly as good as a Trijicon ACOG

[animalmother85]

2: A Primary Arms or Vortex StrikeFire red dot with the option of possibly adding the PA 3x magnifier with the flip mount. I've heard good things about both for the price. I know there are better brands, but an ACOG, VCOG, even an Eotech or Aimpoint is just too high for my starter budget.


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i like the Trijicon ACOG scope, i tried one before but i cant afford it (close to a grand) .

Aimpoint pro and EOTECH are nice optics for AR my suggestion is get good electronic glass.

[esh21167]

And in my cornflakes

[animalmother85]

And in my cornflakes

Stick around here for a short bit and you'll pick up on who and who not to listen and pay attention to.

[TheRealDonJohnson]

You may or may not have the money for this, but another option down the road may be getting an Aimpoint PRO. You can often find them second hand on forums for anywhere between $250-350 depending on the seller and condition. $300 seems to be a good price for a used one in good condition. A lot of times the buyer will get one, shoot with it mounted for a little, and decide they want to upgrade to an Aimpoint M3 or M4. Or they'll get a couple of PRO's and realize they don't need a second one. Others wind up opting for EOTech. You can find a lot of deals on second hand stuff that's still in excellent or (for all intents and purposes) new condition. Just some food for thought for a future purchase.

This is right on. Lightly used optics are a great value, and you can usually grab them for much below retail.

If you're interested in a 1-4 var scope, check out this classified from our forum.

http://forum.pafoa.org/accessories-a...r15-items.html