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    I plan on CC in North Park in Allegheny County. Is this legal? Thanks for the help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe15003 View Post
    I plan on CC in North Park in Allegheny County. Is this legal? Thanks for the help.
    It sure would help to know if:

    A. You have a LTCF.

    B. The park is privately, county, state, or federally owned.

    C. If privately owned, it is posted against firearms.

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    http://www.county.allegheny.pa.us/parks/npfac.aspx

    If you can legally conceal a firearm, you're golden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe15003 View Post
    I plan on CC in North Park in Allegheny County. Is this legal? Thanks for the help.


    Howdy!

    First, some data to confirm I am on the same page:

    North Park in Allegheny County is a county park, so preemption statutes apply.

    However, the Parks Department has RULES in place the would appear to prohibit possession of firearms.

    Section 8. Weapons and Explosives
    • Possession or discharge of a firearm or weapon including but not limited to handguns, rifles, shotguns, crossbows, bow and arrow, air rifle or pistol, any device firing a projectile by compressed gas or spring, such as paintball devices except as otherwise specifically allowed by permit issued by the Parks Department;

    Your call. I fought the law and the law changed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrUgly View Post
    Howdy!

    First, some data to confirm I am on the same page:

    North Park in Allegheny County is a county park, so preemption statutes apply.

    However, the Parks Department has RULES in place the would appear to prohibit possession of firearms.

    Section 8. Weapons and Explosives
    • Possession or discharge of a firearm or weapon including but not limited to handguns, rifles, shotguns, crossbows, bow and arrow, air rifle or pistol, any device firing a projectile by compressed gas or spring, such as paintball devices except as otherwise specifically allowed by permit issued by the Parks Department;

    Your call. I fought the law and the law changed.
    County governments still just don't get it!

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    Who's in Allegheny County? Start writing to the county commissioners to have the law changed to comply with state law.

    North Park? Legally you can open carry, or concealed carry with an LTCF, despite what the park "rules" say.

    And, should anyone object, ask them if they know about Dickson City near Scranton.

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    Yes I have a LTCF, It is a county park.

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    I visit North Park frequently, the only time I have been unarmed was in the pool.

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    I came upon this after deciding whether to carry concealed in the dog park.

    Brandishing of a firearm or weapon including but not limited to handguns, rifles, shotguns, crossbow, bow and arrow, air riffle or pistol, any devise firing a projectile by compressed gas or spring, such as paintball devices except as otherwise specifically allowed by permit issued by the Parks Department. Firearms may be transported through the Park if kept in a car trunk, enclosed in a case, or otherwise inaccessible to use. Nothing contained herein shall prohibit any person licensed under the Pennsylvania Uniform Firearms Act, 18. P.S. §6109 from possession of a firearm as defined in Pennsylvania Uniform Firearms Act, 18 P.S. §6102.

    Sounds a bit legalistic but it looks like it is not banned if you have a LTCF.

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    Time for you to write a letter to the county commissioners and the park department pointing out that their ordinance/regulation is in violation of 6120(a).

    Brandishing? I wonder what that is. It's not mentioned in the Pa. Crimes Code.

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