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Thread: Citizens arrest / fleeing felon
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June 24th, 2018, 03:05 PM #31
Re: Citizens arrest / fleeing felon
While being a huge proponent of the Peelian principles, theres is a clear stop line to me. Unless society/law shields my ass 110% legally and medically if needed, I am not inserting myself into any situations, when lives are not in jeopardy beyond reasonable doubt. Passively fleeing felon? Adios; catch you later, alligator.
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June 24th, 2018, 03:07 PM #32
Re: Citizens arrest / fleeing felon
In PA, you don't need to be threatened in your home to use deadly force. If a person forcefully and unlawfully enters your home, you do not need to flee or retreat or even feel threatened to use force, even deadly force. That's the entire point of the PA's Castle Doctrine.
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June 24th, 2018, 03:12 PM #33
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June 24th, 2018, 04:12 PM #34
Re: Citizens arrest / fleeing felon
While you are correct, there are some interesting caveats to this doctrine, like not being involved in a criminal enterprise at your home.
http://www.mcall.com/news/nationworl...209-story.html
Police say Murray told authorities that he shot Gardner after he kicked in the door of his Cecil Township trailer and assaulted him.
While investigating the death, police uncovered a large marijuana growing operation at Murray's residence.
A Cecil Township man was sentenced to two to five years in prison after he pleaded guilty to charges of involuntary manslaughter and manufacture of a controlled substance stemming from the fatal shooting of a Washington man last year.
David W. Murray, 54, pleaded guilty Monday before Washington County Judge Michael J. Lucas in a deal between prosecutors and Gary Graminski, Murrays attorney.
Cecil police said Murray shot Nathaniel K. Gardner, 52, with a .38-caliber handgun in the kitchen of Murrays home on Adams Street. Police said Murray told them he was watching TV on the night of Nov. 25, 2016, when he heard pounding on a door. Murray said he retrieved the gun from a bedroom and rushed at Gardner, who was unarmed, when the intruder kicked in the door. Police said Murray shot Gardner once in the chest.
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June 24th, 2018, 04:28 PM #35
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June 24th, 2018, 06:12 PM #36
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Not my monkey, not my circus.
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June 24th, 2018, 07:44 PM #37
Re: Citizens arrest / fleeing felon
That is how we ended up with police.
Before that, we only had an elected sheriff, a couple of his appointed deputies - and WE would be responsible for arresting criminals, then handing them over to the sheriff/deputies.
But since most of society decided they didn't want to get involved for some reason or another, the need for police became apparent.
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June 25th, 2018, 09:17 AM #40
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I'm not a lawyer but I think if you shoot someone who is running away you are absolutely going to jail.
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