2014 - Rep Saccone - Hunting with Semi automatic Rifles in PA

[WhiteFeather]

Rep Saccone is sponsoring an upgrade to PA hunting laws

NOW IS THE TIME for you to do your part IF you want this option of hunting with semi-auto firearms in PA!

http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/...cosponId=14811

Posted: June 3, 2014 10:42 AM
From: Representative Rick Saccone

To: All House members
Subject: Hunting with Semi automatic Rifles

In the near future I plan on introducing legislation that would allow hunting with semi automatic rifles limited to a ten round capacity. Currently, we are one of two states forbidding such hunting. Even Hawaii, California and New York allow hunting with semi automatic rifles.

Pennsylvania hunters have proven for decades that they are trustworthy, responsible and ethical stewards of Pennsylvania’s hunting/sporting heritage.

It is time Pennsylvania joins the rest of America in allowing hunting in this regard.

If you have any questions, please contact Patty Beecher in my capitol office 260-6122.

Thank you in advance for your consideration.
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removing [rifle] adding a new (3) to game code


Title 34

§ 2308. Unlawful devices and methods.

(a) General rule.--Except as otherwise provided in this title, it is unlawful for any person to hunt or aid, abet, assist or conspire to hunt any game or wildlife through the use of:

(1) An automatic firearm or similar device.

(2) A semi automatic [rifle or] pistol.

(3) A semi automatic rifle or magazine rifle unless the rifle is limited to a ten-shell capacity OR ANY TUBE FED SEMIAUTOMATIC RIMFIRE RIFLE IN .22 CALIBER OR LESS.



Simple fix with the allowing of hunting with Semi-Auto Rifles this would apply to everything not to just certain “varmint” game animals as in Rep Lucas HB 2230.

The PGC would still have the discretionary authority to limit semi-auto rifles use much as it bans modern center fire rifles for hunting in certain urban area.

This just removes the title 34 legislation preventing PGC from allowing semi-auto rifles use in PA.

Keep in mind for MANY YEARS the PA Game Commission has allowed semi-auto shotguns with rifle slugs (accurate out to 200 yards) for use in these same small wood lot areas for hunting deer and small game with the most dense population areas in the state.

Apparently hunters using these semi-auto capable firearms are not causing problems in these urban areas and they shouldn’t be anywhere else in PA.

48 states allow hunters to use semi-auto rifles for hunting without all the drama and claimed problems with slobs hunters.


Unless you are saying that PA hunters in general … including you are less responsible with the safe use of firearms than the hunters in the 48 other states are!

This change shouldn’t be a problem to make PA the 49 state to legalize hunting with semi auto rifles, not to mention many other countries allow semi-auto rifles for hunting.



IF you are for this concept of bringng PA firearms choices into the 21st century for hunting purposes.

Write up a letter to the Reps asking them to co-sponsor Rep Saccone’s Hunting with Semiautomatic Rifles in PA legislation.


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Time is VERY short in this in 2013-2014 session


So IF you REALLY want this option you need to step your activist efforts and stay on this EFFORT till Nov 2014

[WhiteFeather]

UPDATE June 10, 2014

We now have a number HB 2333

http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/...type=B&bn=2333

HB 2333 Rep Saccone - Hunting with Semi automatic Rifles in PA

Unfortunately....... the suggestion & concerns about tube feed for 22 rim fire rifles didn't make it to the LRB in time.

OR ANY TUBE FED SEMIAUTOMATIC RIMFIRE RIFLE IN .22 CALIBER OR LESS.

we have been assured by Rep Saccone that IF HB 2333 gets a vote in Game and Fish committee that it will be included as amendment



Don't blame Rep Saccone, I didn't get the final suggested text concerning 22 rim fire with tube magazines back in timely manner





Saving this spot for updates will delete IF not used

[DMcC]

Sounds good. What is the OTHER state?

[WhiteFeather]

Sounds good. What is the OTHER state?

Delaware and they don't allow hunting with centerfire RIFLE semi, bolt, lever, NOTHING hunting with a center fire rifle

except groundhogs may be hunted with a centerfire rifle in Delaware

read their hunting regs here

http://www.eregulations.com/delaware...g-information/

[Qtrborecrazy]

Whitefeather, I don't see them going 10 rounds, but 3 might be doable.

[NathanB]

even 5 but aim high and see what sticks. What can we do to get behind this besides emailing our reps.

[Yellowfin]

And since DE's law is a blanket prohibition, it doesn't even qualify in the same category, and it doesn't specify that groundhogs can't be hunted with a semi auto either. So PA is all by its lonesome in being STUPID.

[SevenMilePete]

Whitefeather, I don't see them going 10 rounds, but 3 might be doable.

How do you plug a Marlin 795 magazine to 3? Shortest magazines are 7.

[mosseater]

Email sent, but I have little hope of anything coming of it.

[Qtrborecrazy]

How do you plug a Marlin 795 magazine to 3? Shortest magazines are 7.

Sevenmilepete, I'm not sure if the follower can be removed and a block put in the bottom, but what we use to do to AR mags was drill a hole and put a pop rivet in to limit the travel of the follower.