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    Default Nutty Nutter blocks ICE detainers ,

    Wow ....

    http://www.newsworks.org/index.php/b...28NewsWorks%29


    When Arizona tried to enforce its own standards on illegal immigration, that state was told immigration is exclusively a federal matter.

    But Philadelphia seems to think it can enforce its own standards on illegal immigration independent of federal law.

    State and local law enforcement has traditionally tried to cooperate with federal law enforcement. When state and local law enforcement need back-up, they hope that federal agencies will be inclined to help based on their on-going relationship.

    When the federal agency in charge of immigration enforcement, ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement), learns that a state or local agency is holding someone whose fingerprints and identity match those of someone ICE is seeking to remove from the U.S., ICE issues a detainer requesting that the person be held up to 48 hours until ICE can confirm the information and take custody of the alien.

    On April 16, 2014, Philadelphia Mayor Michael Nutter issued an executive order directing city officials to refuse to honor ICE detainers unless all of four conditions are satisfied: First, the individual must have been convicted of a crime. Not charged with a crime, however serious, but convicted of a crime. Second, the criminal conviction must be for a felony. Third, the felony must have involved violence. And fourth, and most importantly, there must be an outstanding judicial warrant for the detention.

    Mayor Nutter cites other jurisdictions which have refused to honor some ICE detainers. But no other jurisdiction has adopted a policy as rigid as Philadelphia's, with such limited cooperation with the federal agency charged with immigration law enforcement.

    ICE is authorized by law to arrest and detain aliens it believes to be removable without a judicial warrant. As the immigration advocates who pushed Mayor Nutter to issue his executive order know and have publicly stated, the requirement of a judicial warrant, if it means what it says, will "in practice...end all deportation holds" because ICE does not obtain judicial warrants to accompany detainers. The advocates call Mayor Nutter's executive order the "most progressive policy in the country."

    So what will happen to removable aliens encountered by police in Philadelphia, many of whom have no right to be in the U.S. in the first place? Under the Mayor's executive order they will be released onto the streets of Philadelphia despite any ICE request to hold them for removal from the United States.

    And it's not as though ICE has been particularly vigorous in trying to enforce U.S. immigration law. Under the Obama administration's policy of "prosecutorial discretion", unlawful presence by itself is insufficient to cause ICE to initiate removal proceedings. And the New York Times reports that, "New deportation cases brought by the Obama administration in the nation's immigration courts have been declining steadily since 2009," leading to "a 43 percent drop in the number of deportations through the courts in the last five years."

    Even while American workers suffer from prolonged high unemployment and underemployment and stagnant wages because of surplus labor, the Nutter administration and the Obama administration compete to signal that increased illegal immigration into U.S. and Philadelphia labor markets will be tolerated and not prosecuted.

    Business interests welcome increasing illegal immigration as a means to hold down wages and working conditions for American workers. Both Democrats and establishment Republicans are responsive to the interests of the richest 1% who fund their campaigns. Does anyone believe our political system is operating in the best interests of ordinary working-class Americans and Philadelphians?

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    Default Re: Nutty Nutter blocks ICE detainers ,

    Well one again the ass hat thinks he can do anything he wants.

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    Default Re: Nutty Nutter blocks ICE detainers ,

    So elect a President with gonadal fortitude enough to arrest a sitting Mayor and throw him in jail for refusing to comply with federal law!

    What in hell do you think is going to happen when the President and Attorney General refuse to enforce federal law?


    "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities".

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    Default Re: Nutty Nutter blocks ICE detainers ,

    He's lining up his ducks for future jobs. He'd get down on his knees if he thought it would get him favor with OblowmeHitleryRendallery.

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    Default Re: Nutty Nutter blocks ICE detainers ,

    It's nice that the article details when ICE CAN detain an alien..... But they won't unless they have been arrested for a crime of violence.

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    Default Re: Nutty Nutter blocks ICE detainers ,

    Not like unemployment isn't bad enough already, let's signal all the illegals to come to our "safe" city. Saw a couple of "workers" this morning looking for work at a bus stop in Wallingford. Standing with a sign looking for work whenever a work truck type went by and sitting down like they were waiting for the bus when a cop would come by. Right by the nether prov police station. Guess they were needlessly worried.

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    Default Re: Nutty Nutter blocks ICE detainers ,

    ICE issues a detainer requesting that the person be held up to 48 hours until ICE can confirm the information
    Aren't you supposed to know that before you ask that someone be arrested? And yes, a detention is an arrest. If the person isn't free to leave, the person has been arrested.

    And fourth, and most importantly, there must be an outstanding judicial warrant for the detention.
    And Mayor Nutter, despite his faults, is being pilloried for insisting that an agency of the federal government comply with what the U.S. Constitution demands?

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    Default Re: Nutty Nutter blocks ICE detainers ,

    As long as we have an ignorant electorate, that keeps electing people who think they are above the law, and the common folk, we are doomed.
    A Republic, if you can keep it.

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    Default Re: Nutty Nutter blocks ICE detainers ,

    Quote Originally Posted by Berks_Iraq_Vet View Post
    As long as we have an ignorant electorate, that keeps electing people who think they are above the law, and the common folk, we are doomed.
    Above the law? Like Bundy supporters?

    You see, it't the hypocricy, that bites the most. For libturds, it's ok, when their boy Nutter questions federal authority, but Bundy supporters shouldn't have that right. And we'll be no better, if we'll take the same stance towards matters we disagree with.
    Je suis déplorable

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    Default Re: Nutty Nutter blocks ICE detainers ,

    Quote Originally Posted by Metz View Post
    Above the law? Like Bundy supporters?

    You see, it't the hypocricy, that bites the most. For libturds, it's ok, when their boy Nutter questions federal authority, but Bundy supporters shouldn't have that right. And we'll be no better, if we'll take the same stance towards matters we disagree with.
    Difference is Bundy is a private citizen and Nutter is an elected official. Just like Kane refusing to defend laws she does not agree with. Fine. Resign and protest against the laws all you want to.
    A Republic, if you can keep it.

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