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    Default AK Build Party in Philadelphia

    I was wondering if anyone would be interested in having an AK build party in or around Philly. I have 4 80% receivers and I'd like to build one out and I could probably do it myself but I thought it would be more fun and productive as a group. I'm open to any ideas!

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    Default Re: AK Build Party in Philadelphia

    Is this actually a thing people do? Also, can there be beer involved? It's a party right? Finally do you want to sell me one of those receivers?
    Selling off a a sizeable Spyderco collection here

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    Default Re: AK Build Party in Philadelphia

    Yep this is something a lot of people do. And yes there can be beer! I'm open to selling one of those receivers, I have 4 so I doubt I'll be able to build all 4. send me a private message and we'll work something out.

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    Default Re: AK Build Party in Philadelphia

    You're treading a very thin line on committing multiple federal crimes

    OP has only 3 posts and one is an infraction



    Just saying

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    Default Re: AK Build Party in Philadelphia

    Quote Originally Posted by BimmerJon View Post
    You're treading a very thin line on committing multiple federal crimes

    OP has only 3 posts and one is an infraction



    Just saying
    There are some legal minefields to be avoided, for example, completing a receiver (manufacturing) with the intent to sell it, requires an FFL. Selling an unmodified receiver casting, does not.

    The AK build parties that have been shut down were "parties" where someone provided the CNC machine and the program to complete the receiver; the person providing the service was "manufacturing" for others.

    Such a party can be done, but it has to be done without stepping on any of the legal land mines.
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    Default Re: AK Build Party in Philadelphia

    Everyone purchases an 80% receiver. Not a crime.

    Joe provides a drill press and drills and jig.

    Everyone does their own drilling using a borrowed drill press and jig.

    Joe isn't manufacturing - he's just loaning his tools to someone.



    I think what got the CNC user in trouble was including the CNC programming, which essentially meant he was doing all the work for everyone, i.e., manufacturing.

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    Default Re: AK Build Party in Philadelphia

    Quote Originally Posted by Statkowski View Post
    Everyone purchases an 80% receiver. Not a crime.

    Joe provides a drill press and drills and jig.

    Everyone does their own drilling using a borrowed drill press and jig.

    Joe isn't manufacturing - he's just loaning his tools to someone.
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    you willing to gamble on that?

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    Default Re: AK Build Party in Philadelphia

    Nope. I have no desire to build an AR. I just commented on the possible legal alternative to a programmed CNC.

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    Default Re: AK Build Party in Philadelphia

    This is something I would be interested in as long as we stay in the law. Are we talking meeting at someone's garage and sharing tools and having someone with the experince walk us threw it?

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    Default Re: AK Build Party in Philadelphia

    Quote Originally Posted by BimmerJon View Post
    you willing to gamble on that?
    The laws are in black and white and have been tested time and again. The case your referencing is a man had a mechanized CNC mill. He told people to buy certain 80% receivers and meet at his home. He then proceeded to build out all the lowers himself while party goers sat around drinking beer and eating food.

    With a cnc machine the owner of the lower has to operate the machine that is creating his lower.

    he does not need to own said machine.


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