California....Shall issue soon?

[libra8]

CA non res permits soon?????

One step at a time. Let's get "shall issue" here in NJ next.

[HKusp 45]

that is one of the reasons I left SoCal. Never been arrested law abiding citizen, denied my permit because I did not have probably cause. I listed personal protection in my application, back then that was not considered probably cause. They were only issuing if you were a politician, celebrity or rich. A lot of law abiding citizens were denied. F cali, i still won't go back now. Cali supreme court didn't vote this down, the u.s. supreme court did, that shows you how whacked out those people are. f pelosi, f feinstein

That's one of the Many many many reasons I left northern California. But yeah hell must've frozen over.

[yoshi]

"The right to bear arms includes the right to carry an operable firearm outside the home for the lawful purpose of self-defense," Judge Diarmuid O'Scannlain wrote for the majority.

So, if this is the case, why is there allowed to be a permit process in the first place?

[mrjam2jab]

Here is the filed opinion

[mikelets456]

One step at a time. Let's get "shall issue" here in NJ next.

I really hope but doubt it. I travel to NJ quite often and it's such a pain. I try to avoid going there when I don't have to and I'll make excuses when our friends from PA say " let's go to dinner in NJ" . My answer is " nah, let's go local".

[Fred762]

Snow in 49 states, despite obongo's whining about globall warming!??
I knew there must be another reason for all the winter crap and THIS must be IT!!! Californication anti-gun crap laws struck down??? What..now maybe honest citizens can carry guns to defend themselves from ARMED PRofCA thugs!!! WTF!!!

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...oncealed-Carry

[ChamberedRound]

"The right to bear arms includes the right to carry an operable firearm outside the home for the lawful purpose of self-defense," Judge Diarmuid O'Scannlain wrote for the majority.

So, if this is the case, why is there allowed to be a permit process in the first place?

Because the courts have also determined that carry can be regulated as long as it doesn't constitute an de facto ban. For example, open carry can be banned as long as concealed carry isn't, as you're still allowing carry in some form. Furthermore, the government can require a permit to conceal carry in the interests of public safety, as long as the right of the individual is protected. Sand Diego's "may issue" licensing scheme was arbitrary and capricious, and the standards for issuance were not codified other than to say one must "show need".

I really hope but doubt it. I travel to NJ quite often and it's such a pain. I try to avoid going there when I don't have to and I'll make excuses when our friends from PA say " let's go to dinner in NJ" . My answer is " nah, let's go local".

FWIW, I believe there's already a case being filed in NJ and sponsored by the NJRPC, SAF, and supposedly to be argued by Alan Gura, the man who argued Heller and McDonald to the SCotUS (I don't recall the name of the appellant). Given this, the 9th Circuit ruling couldn't come at a better time. It will force the hand of the NJ courts, because if they choose not to rule in opposition, it will setup this issue to be heard by the SCotUS, which so far has been relatively friendly on this issue.

[ChuckS]

CA non res permits soon?????

California does not issue non-resident licenses and they don't recognize any other states license....I guess they are allowed to treat non-residents unequally.

[ungawa]

9th Circuit? Is this a joke? It's not April Fools Day yet.

Hawaii....also 9th Circuit.

And other Pacific places like Guam. (Does anyone go to Guam who isn't in the .mil? Whatever, it's still a little bit of America.)

That just leaves NJ and MD (and NYC).

[gold cup abuser]

9th Circuit? Is this a joke? It's not April Fools Day yet.



That just leaves NJ and MD (and NYC).

No its not April yet....

But don't get too happy about this one just yet. As my fading memory recalls on the 9th Circuit there is the appeal panel and the full 7-9 judge panel. The group that heard this more than likely the appellate panel.

The state can appeal this to the full court, and if they then agree with the appellate panel then it goes to SCOTUS.

So don't break out the party favors just yet folks.

It ain't over til the fat socialist croaks