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  1. #1
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    Default MY PROBLEM I NEED ANSWERS TOO PLEASE HELP

    I have got locked up on the 8th of jan. my story is some people was shooting on the block idk why but 3houses was his including mine I have a act 235 after I herd my windows breaking grab my gun ran down stairs to look for my grandmother my other family members said she was safe in the basement we called the cops when I herd the cops sirens out side I concealed my firearms went on the porch to tell the cops that we called they instantly got out the car and drawled their guns on me I put my hands in the air and told them I'm act235 3x they came up to me pulled me off the porch and full body search me the didn't see my firearm until they searched me and they locked me up from the 8th to the 24th I'm out on bail fighting my case on the street they held my charges on the first hearing now I'm on my second I wanna know do I have a win and by me still bein stayin on the porch will I be fine and they will drop my charges I was charged with 2counts of vufa-no License and vufa-on the streets

    Please help

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    Default Re: MY PROBLEM I NEED ANSWERS TOO PLEASE HELP

    There's an exception under both statutes (18 Pa.C.S.A. § 6106, and § 6108), for:

    "Agents, messengers and other employees of common carriers, banks, or business firms, whose duties require them to protect moneys, valuables and other property in the discharge of such duties."
    Attorney Phil Kline, AKA gunlawyer001@gmail.com
    Ce sac n'est pas un jouet.

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    Default Re: MY PROBLEM I NEED ANSWERS TOO PLEASE HELP

    I don't think 235 allows you to carry outside of work and to and from work.
    You need a ltcf to oc or cc in Philly, and I'm thinking 235 doesn't cover you....not sure.
    Other in the know will chime in.
    FUCK BIDEN

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    Default Re: MY PROBLEM I NEED ANSWERS TOO PLEASE HELP

    Im guessing no LTCF?


    Sounds like another "abode" debate maybe...
    Proud to be a Longwall pig...

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    Default Re: MY PROBLEM I NEED ANSWERS TOO PLEASE HELP

    What neighborhood are you in?

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    Default Re: MY PROBLEM I NEED ANSWERS TOO PLEASE HELP

    So cops can roll up while you're standing on your OWN porch and frisk/arrest you? If I/you backed up into the house, their next move was to kick the door in?
    Something sounds like "violation" here.

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    Default Re: MY PROBLEM I NEED ANSWERS TOO PLEASE HELP

    He said he was on/in his own property (on his porch) when they rousted him, not on public property or in his front yard. Something sounds odd about this.

    Also didn't state what the charges were.

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    Default Re: MY PROBLEM I NEED ANSWERS TOO PLEASE HELP

    Quote Originally Posted by Kurt_D View Post
    He said he was on/in his own property (on his porch) when they rousted him, not on public property or in his front yard. Something sounds odd about this.

    Also didn't state what the charges were.
    Grammar perhaps?

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    Default Re: MY PROBLEM I NEED ANSWERS TOO PLEASE HELP

    "vufa-no License and vufa-on the streets"

    I am guessing "vufa" is violation uniformed firearms act?

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    Default Re: MY PROBLEM I NEED ANSWERS TOO PLEASE HELP

    I understand it to be violation of the uniform firearms act by having a concealed firearm without LTCF, and violation of the uniform firearms act...on the streets. The first is pretty clear. The second...sounds like cops have witnesses that he was on the street/sidewalk in essence open carrying or gun in sight. The police coming directly for him sounds like they had information specifically about him, such as his being the shooter, or "man with gun".

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