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    Default 2014 2nd Amendment Action Day & lobbying event.

    2014 2nd Amendment Action Day & lobbying event.

    The 9th annual Second Amendment Action Day & interactive lobbying event is going to be on

    Tuesday April 29, 2014 rally kicks off at 10 am on the main steps outside of the State Capitol, Harrisburg PA


    Lots of information at this one location http://www.2arally.com/
    *Speakers
    *Issues
    *Direction - Parking –maps
    And much more, Please view this here before asking a question







    With the 2014 Pennsylvania Right To Keep and Bear Arms Action Day quickly approaching we wanted to take a moment to highlight the most important part of the rally that we do each year: Legislator Education.

    Each year after the speaking engagements for the rally, gun owners from around the Commonwealth are organized into groups broken down into groups and assigned a team leader so that they may walk the halls of our capitol speaking to legislators about issues important to gun owners. This is one of, if not the, single most important thing gun owners can do to help preserve their rights!
    As time is very short to catch Reps in their offices before session, groups are organized based on office locations in capital.

    Some parts of PA no gun owners come to see their Reps, so we ask everyone to go visit the Reps with a group. It does no good if everyone visits the same dozen of pro gun Reps offices, and no one goes to the others Reps that also get to vote on our bills. Educating all the Reps is the goal!

    Afterward you will have time to go speak with your Reps if they are not part of your group assignments

    Please note that when picking a group to join, try to go for the one with the fewest amount of people. We want to make sure that the groups are split up as evenly as possible, if everyone runs to the first group in their list, this won’t work out so well.

    Once again, thank you to every gun owner who joins us in standing up for their rights and we can’t wait to see you there!



    For more information about this event, confirmed speakers, parking, legislative efforts. Please visit the 2arally.com web site, Note the web site is being updated as new information becomes available, so check back often


    http://www.2arally.com/

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    This year’s event starts on outside on the main capital steps. After the speakers are done, there is a major time delay to pass through security to get access to the capital complex.

    Please note that you can only check firearms at the Commonwealth Ave. entrance on the other side of the capital.

    We strongly suggest you check your firearms before the speakers begin, and not afterward, so you can access the capital from any public entrance, instead of just one by the lock boxes. Checking firearms before will save you time and speed up entry into capital complex.



    CHECKING FIREARMS


    Anyone with a handgun and a valid LTCF permit as we have in the past and will make provisions to have them safely stored by the capital police in the PO Office sized lock boxes or at another location in the building off Commonwealth Ave. . All handguns will be secured.

    No special accommodations will be made for ANY one that chooses to bring: Long Guns, SBR, SBS or AOW as the focus of this event will be to directly speak to our elected Representatives, not carrying these types of firearms.

    There are other venues and events where carrying these types of arms are appropriate and should be brought to make a political statement, this is NOT that event here on this dedicated to lobbying the elected Reps.

    IF you want to insist on bring anything other than a handgun to this legislative lobbying event, or have a problem with providing the information requested by the capital police form.

    It’s your responsibility to go to the capital in advance of this event day, speak with the capital police leadership to deal with your special concerns, to your satisfaction, not anyone else.

    If you choose not not to pursue this responsible course of action prior to the day of the event, you are on your own, deal with the consequences, make some other private arrangements for storing your long guns. Contact your state Reps to solve the problem instead of anyone else ..

    -JD-
    The PA Capitol Building Firearms check-in form is attached. I suggest you fill it out before arriving. Go in the entrance on the fountain side of the building and tell the Capitol police that that you have a firearm to check. They'll want the filled out form and your LTCF. They have several racks of PO Box sized lockers for locking up each one individually. In my recent experiences they have been courteous and efficient.

    On this link is an editable PDF form to pre fill out your firearm information to expedite your check in time at security
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    http://forum.pafoa.org/attachment.ph...1&d=1271854880

    Please note that you can only check firearms at the Commonwealth Ave. entrance.

    Also since checking firearms is going to be a issue, EVERYONE please try to be patient and understand with capital police, most every officer that we have met really appreciate gun owners efforts at these lobbying event because when they take the badge off they are just like US and stupid gun control laws put them and their families at risk just like the rest of US.

    If someone has a problem with capital security get the officers name and badge number Immediately after clearing security come find one of the volunteer staff helping on this event then will we deal with it that day with the Reps help it will be resolved. It will be handled promptly just don’t be a jerk about it, making a scene that makes all of US look bad.

    DON'T wait to come home and post it here, resolve your problem there, that day. If its un safe handling of firearms whatever, lets US know. Let’s work together to get it fix and resolve this with capital police that day.

    The capital police officer have a difficult job handling their assigned security task they don’t make the rules, the Reps do, they delegate authority to a position which they oversee. They are going to be overwhelmed with lots gun owners on April 23th, just put yourself in their shoes for a moment, they are people just like US and like I said most do appreciate of efforts to fight for our rights so give them some slack.


    Anyone with a handgun and a valid LTCF permit we have and will make provisions to have them safely stored by the capital police in the PO Office sized lock boxes or optional location. All handguns will be secured.


    On this link is an editable PDF form to pre fill out your firearm information to expedite your check in time at security
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    http://forum.pafoa.org/attachment.ph...1&d=1271854880


    Title 18, section 913:

    (e) Facilities for checking firearms or other dangerous weapons.--Each county shall make available at or within the building containing a court facility by July 1, 2002, lockers or similar facilities at no charge or cost for the temporary checking of firearms by persons carrying firearms under section 6106(b) or 6109 or for the checking of other dangerous weapons that are not otherwise prohibited by law. Any individual checking a firearm, dangerous weapon or an item deemed to be a dangerous weapon at a court facility must be issued a receipt. Notice of the location of the facility shall be posted as required under subsection (d).

    Title 18, section 6106 (b)

    (11) Any person while carrying a firearm in any vehicle, which person possesses a valid and lawfully issued license for that firearm which has been issued under the laws of the United States or any other state.

    (15) Any person who possesses a valid and lawfully issued license or permit to carry a firearm which has been issued under the laws of another state, regardless of whether a reciprocity agreement exists between the Commonwealth and the state under section 6109(k), provided:

    (i) The state provides a reciprocal privilege for individuals licensed to carry firearms under section 6109.

    (ii) The Attorney General has determined that the firearm laws of the state are similar to the firearm laws of this Commonwealth.

    The section above is the area of law that is being used to deny people the ability to enter the Capitol building with firearms because of the PA Supreme Court hearing rooms upstairs. The section below is the one referenced in Section 913 and as you can see ‘carry’ is defined as those who have a valid and lawfully issued license. Perhaps it is not obvious but this does preclude LONG GUNS!





    On a personal NOTE to ALL.

    Since the PA Supreme Court has built an entire new building at tax payer’s expense and now moved from the capital complex. With limited use of the old court rooms that can be locked when not in use or be protected by relocation of metal detector for those rooms only much like the viewing galleries have when in session.

    The court room exemption for the entire capital complex is now going to be tough to keep in the future years, and something that we are going to be asking our elected Reps why something more agreeable be put in place with those with valid LTCF permit like other states have for access.

    Learn how to really SUPPORT the 2nd Amendment cause Go To http://www.foac-pac.org/

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    Default Re: 2014 2nd Amendment Action Day & lobbying event.

    Here is the list of legislation we are looking to move in 2014 and the related discussion on PAFOA, so you can study up on the subjects.


    HB 921 PICS elimination – saving Freedom, taxpayer monies & reducing size of government
    http://forum.pafoa.org/pennsylvania-...-governme.html



    Two house bills on Preemption
    HB 805 ( Preemption ) Regulation of Firearms & Ammunition - Rep Metcalfe 2013-2014
    http://forum.pafoa.org/pennsylvania-...13-2014-a.html


    HB 2011 - Amends § 6120. Limitation on the regulation of firearms and ammunition.
    http://forum.pafoa.org/pennsylvania-...mmunition.html




    HB 718 – Right to Transport Firearms Rep Krieger 2013-2014 legislative effort
    http://forum.pafoa.org/pennsylvania-...ve-effort.html




    HB 671 Constitutional Carry – Rep Saccone 2013-2014 legislative effort
    http://forum.pafoa.org/pennsylvania-...ve-effort.html




    HB 357 Right to Bear Arms Protection Act - Daryl D. Metcalfe
    http://forum.pafoa.org/pennsylvania-...fe-page-8.html


    In the remaining 2014 session we opportunity to make these the law in PA.
    This is ONLY going to happen with you direct involvement, legislators can count, if we say there are two million plus lawful gun owners in PA and only a few show, they figure why rock the boat, let spend session doing something else.

    Keep in mind those photos of gun owners bravely trying to ask them not to pass more gun laws, when the other side has the vote, THEY WILL NOT BE STOPPED.
    Don’t wait for you to become to be involved when it’s a losing battle, be pro active and help get these passed now while we do have the support in HBG.

    Last edited by WhiteFeather; February 7th, 2014 at 01:30 PM. Reason: added HB 2011
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    Default Re: 2014 2nd Amendment Action Day & lobbying event.

    This Thread is a work in progress

    The main page on PAFOA will be updated

    with link directing everyone to this page

    and the main rally information page




    http://www.2arally.com/
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    Special note at different time at several of the past annual lobbying a few people refused to provide the additional id requested by the capital police (that is outside of the scope in the UFA requirements) and they were refused entry to the capital complex. If you have a problem with this extra requirement you now have several weeks prior to April 23, 2013 to contact the capital police to correct this to your satisfaction and / or contact your state Reps to address this problem or don’t go.

    Out of respect please take that extra requirement discussion to another thread and work together to get it changed by contacting capital police leadership and or your state Reps.

    If you want to push the issue, there are many other days besides this dedicated lobbying day to make a political statement, or to prove your point.

    The police officers working the security detail have a very difficult job dealing with the general public are following the instructions and procedures from their superior officers on checking firearms.

    Most the capital police officers are very supportive our efforts to improve and protect their firearm rights, so take your firearm check in problem to the ones that makes the rules or those that hold their leash, not the individual police officers working security
    Learn how to really SUPPORT the 2nd Amendment cause Go To http://www.foac-pac.org/

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    Default Re: 2014 2nd Amendment Action Day & lobbying event.

    NEED A RIDE TO HBG on 4-29-2014?

    work in progress


    See NEW and Improved firearm check in form in attachment at bottom of this post
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    Last edited by WhiteFeather; January 31st, 2014 at 02:05 PM.
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    Default Re: 2014 2nd Amendment Action Day & lobbying event.

    If anyone with some skill could make a printable flyer for the event, this would be very appreciated.
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    Default Re: 2014 2nd Amendment Action Day & lobbying event.

    Quote Originally Posted by xxthe_beastxx View Post
    If anyone with some skill could make a printable flyer for the event, this would be very appreciated.
    Assuming Facebook links correctly:

    https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbi...f&notif_t=like
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAMedic=F|A= View Post
    Great flyer but I was hoping for something a little more text based that won't take up an entire ink cartridge on each print.
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    I will be there as usual to visit with the Philly anti-gun contingent of politicians

    Ed Stephan
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    Default Re: 2014 2nd Amendment Action Day & lobbying event.

    I do plan to attend for my 2nd year.

    I have begun printing and passing out the flyers when I visit any of the local gun shops. I'm also a committe member for a NTWF chapter. I plan to distribute flyers there as well.

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