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    Default PCN-TV Pennsylvania's Gun Laws debate 5-19-08

    The Program is to discuss Pennsylvania's Gun Laws

    Pro Gun activist Kim Stolfer will be debating Joe Grace the paid anti-gun leader and Executive Director of Ceasefire PA. One of the AG groups that is always lobbying to take your firearms rights away.

    The debate is on PCN-TV Monday, May 19, 2008 7:00 PM for a one hour show with viewer call ins to ask questions of guest.

    Please call in if possible and ask Joe Grace why firearm violations are routinely plea bargained away and why the mandatory 5 year sentence for using firearms in commission of crimes NOT being used by District Attorneys to keep the criminals off the streets.


    If you donít have cable TV you can watch debate on internet on PCN-TV

    http://www.pcntv.com/



    If you need some back ground information on Joe Grace or the anti-gun organization.

    Read PAFOA post here - - Know your enemy: New professional hired to take your firearms rights away

    http://www.pafoa.org/forum/pennsylva...ghts-away.html

    Make no mistake these AG groups want to disarm you and the rest of the Citizens of PA.

    Kim Stolfer

    ACSL, Legislative Committee, Chairman

    www.acslpa.org

    FOAC, Chairman

    www.foac-pac.org

    PSA, Legislative Committee, Vice-Chairman

    SAFE, Shooters Active in Firearms Education

    NRA Certified Training Counselor

    NRA Certified Chief Range Safety Officer

    ASLET, American Society of Law Enforcement Trainers

    Civilian Associate

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    Default Re: PCN-TV Pennsylvania's Gun Laws debate 5-19-08

    Thank you...put it in my planner so I won't forget.

    PROUD WIFE OF PA. PATRIOT
    "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms..disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. "-Thomas Jefferson

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    Default Re: PCN-TV Pennsylvania's Gun Laws debate 5-19-08

    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteFeather View Post
    ask Joe Grace why firearm violations are routinely plea bargained away
    The Second Amendment and PA.Const.,Art.1,Sec.21 would like to have a word with you.

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    Default Re: PCN-TV Pennsylvania's Gun Laws debate 5-19-08

    Just set the dvr to record it.
    Don't be an ass.

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    Default Re: PCN-TV Pennsylvania's Gun Laws debate 5-19-08

    I suspect I know how this will come down. Whenever Kim is going to make a point, Grace will shout over him and the "moderator" will do nothing to stop it. Kim will be muzzled while Grace will get all the air time he wants.

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    Default Re: PCN-TV Pennsylvania's Gun Laws debate 5-19-08

    Don't just set the VCR, call in if at all possible (I will be). Believe me, CeasefirePA will have people calling in to show "support".

    I'd called in when the NRA rep (his name eludes me) and Dwight Evans were on.
    Evans made no sense (not too big a surprise!) and was pretty easy to make him look like an idiot.
    The NRA rep wasn't as persuasive as I would have liked...nor as aggressive.

    I'm sure Kim will do well..logic is on our side. But remember, Grace is a political consultant (aka, a whore) who makes his living selling political concepts. Be prepared when you call in!

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    Default Re: PCN-TV Pennsylvania's Gun Laws debate 5-19-08

    kim, thank you for the information on this up coming debate.i will make it a point to tune in to the show. and again thank you. junkyard dog

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    Default Re: PCN-TV Pennsylvania's Gun Laws debate 5-19-08

    Going to set the reminder on my cable box as soon as the Mrs. gets off of the Xbox 360.

    When injustice becomes law, rebellion becomes duty!

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    Default Re: PCN-TV Pennsylvania's Gun Laws debate 5-19-08

    Thanks - have it in my calendar!
    "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil, is for good men to do nothing"
    Edmund Burke

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    Default Re: PCN-TV Pennsylvania's Gun Laws debate 5-19-08

    Looks like you may be able to view the program on-line after it airs. I believe you'll need Quick Time to view.
    http://www.pcntv.com/pcn_online.html
    "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil, is for good men to do nothing"
    Edmund Burke

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