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    Default Boating while carrying and your PA LTCF...

    did a search and found a few things that kinda answered some questions, but still wanted more info.

    pops just bought a boat at the end of the season and it's been a while since either of us have been on the water. he wants to get back into fishin big time. my main concern is on the Delaware River and it's tributaries. all of us (pops, bro and myself) have our LTCFs and I would like some definitive answers about carrying on the Delaware. are we limited to the PA side? what is the Coast Guard's role in enforcement?

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    Default Re: Boating while carrying and your PA LTCF...

    Quote Originally Posted by 03SVTCobra View Post
    did a search and found a few things that kinda answered some questions, but still wanted more info.

    pops just bought a boat at the end of the season and it's been a while since either of us have been on the water. he wants to get back into fishin big time. my main concern is on the Delaware River and it's tributaries. all of us (pops, bro and myself) have our LTCFs and I would like some definitive answers about carrying on the Delaware. are we limited to the PA side? what is the Coast Guard's role in enforcement?
    I presume that you are inquiring about the issue of NJ/NY sides of the Delaware.
    You are subject to the laws of the state above whose land you are afloat. Do not cross to the dark side of the Delaware River's boundary.
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    Default Re: Boating while carrying and your PA LTCF...

    Be VERY careful. Look closely at a map and you will see that in most areas, the PRNJ extends most of the width of the Delaware to just off the PA shore.
    I can tell you've been rady8ed, you have a nice glow about you.

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    Default Re: Boating while carrying and your PA LTCF...

    Quote Originally Posted by rady8um View Post
    Be VERY careful. Look closely at a map and you will see that in most areas, the PRNJ extends most of the width of the Delaware to just off the PA shore.

    This. You'll see that the border is NOT "right down the middle".

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    Default Re: Boating while carrying and your PA LTCF...

    You're asking for boating advice on PAFOA? 2/3 of these guys have had horrific boating accidents!

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    Default Re: Boating while carrying and your PA LTCF...

    On the lower Delaware into the top of the Delaware Bay the State of Delaware owns over to the shore of New Jersey and inland a couple of hundred yards to boot at one point and then continues up the shoreline of NJ all the way to PA state line. The rest of the way up the river the border is supposed to be in the middle of the river but if New Jersey State Police believe you are carrying firearms or they have some reason to suspect criminal activity such as having NRA stickers on your boat or you look like you are too free they will arrest you and claim you were on their side of the river.

    Go to Wallenpaupack, Beltzville, or any of the in PA lakes but if you're going to carry firearms I would avoid the Delaware river unless you have a GPS that records your position and keep a video cam at the ready. It's not the Coast Guard you have to worry about it's the New Jersey State Police Marine Services.

    http://www.njsp.org/maritime/index.html

    If you have any questions on how New Jersey will completely trample you rights as American Citizen you need not look any further than the New Jersey State Police website to see how your rights will be abused if you bring a firearm into New Jersey. You have no rights in New Jersey when it comes to firearms.

    They tell you right up front "The New Jersey State Police is not authorized to provide legal advice to private parties". That's because they make it up as they go along and don't want to be held to a standard.


    http://www.nj.gov/oag/services_arms.htm
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    Default Re: Boating while carrying and your PA LTCF...

    Quote Originally Posted by scruff View Post
    You're asking for boating advice on PAFOA? 2/3 of these guys have had horrific boating accidents!
    Maybe he can "lose" all his guns on this "tragic" boating "accident".
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    Default Re: Boating while carrying and your PA LTCF...

    Also, be aware that both NJ and PA have shore to shore law enforcement rights on the Delaware River.

    http://books.google.com/books?id=RpI...page&q&f=false

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    Default Re: Boating while carrying and your PA LTCF...

    Personally, I would not carry firearms while boating on the Delaware River. If there is an emergency or situation where you have to cross the line or go ashore on the NJ side, you are now subject to NJ firearms laws. No thanks.

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    Default Re: Boating while carrying and your PA LTCF...

    Quote Originally Posted by mikelets456 View Post
    Maybe he can "lose" all his guns on this "tragic" boating "accident".
    Oh he could definitely lose all of them if not careful on the Delaware. And not in the good way the rest of us lost ours!

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