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October 30th, 2013, 07:56 PM #11
Re: FOPA Does Not Apply to Airports? Third Circuit 9/13/2013
The ruling I linked said specifically that FOPA only applies to vehicular transport and not to airports. That is the law of the land in the Third Circuit, unless you take it to the US Supreme Court, or unless you can show me how that's not what it said.
I very well might have missed something but from what I read I think you missed it.
All firearm possession in NJ requires a NJ FOID,
which is something I don't believe they issue to non-residents.
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October 30th, 2013, 07:57 PM #12
Re: FOPA Does Not Apply to Airports? Third Circuit 9/13/2013
NJ possession is permitted under the following independent circumstances:
1. exempted profession/activities;
2. longarms possessed with an NJFID card;
3. handguns possessed with an NJCCW (cannot use NJFID)
Yes, non-residents can get an NJFID and an NJCCW (theoretically)
For longarms with an NJFID there should be no problem. For handguns -- an NJCCW or exemption under NJS 2C:39-6 is required.
^^^THIS. In fact the same 3rd Circuit said as much in the Revell v. Port Auth. of N.Y. & N.J., 598 F.3d 128, 137 (3d Cir. 2010) ruling.
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Just for another point of reference, the concurring Judge Jordan in this instant ruling gets the point:
In fact, the Majority concedes that § 926A can cover
travel by planes, trains, and automobiles. (Maj. Op. at 7 n.3.)
That concession leads to a puzzlement: given the Majority’s
interpretation of § 926A, how does one get to the airport or
train station, check one’s luggage containing a firearm, but
still come under the protection of § 926A? It may be easy to
say, as the government did during oral argument, that
travelling by plane is permissible, as long as the airport the
traveler is departing from is within a state in which he is
permitted to carry a firearm. But that hardly seems to be the
purpose of the statute. For if that were the case, the statute
would be of very limited utility, as air passengers were never
likely to face prosecution by the states whose air space they
traversed. The purpose of the statute seems more likely to be
the protection of, for example, a traveler who lives in Easton,
Pennsylvania, and wishes to go hunting in Montana. The
closest place likely to offer a variety of flights is not in the
traveler’s home state, but is in New Jersey, at the Newark
Liberty International Airport. Accepting the Majority’s
concession, but not its statutory interpretation, that traveler
comes within § 926A’s scope. But if the Majority’s statutory
interpretation is controlling, that traveler faces prosecution
when attempting to make his trip, unless he has a carry permit
in New Jersey. Despite the Majority’s disclaimer, its
interpretation of § 926A appears to effectively limit the
statutory protection to travel by private vehicles.
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In short, § 926A is not the plain and unambiguous
statute that the Majority portrays, and it is not a stretch to
think that it was meant to protect interstate travel by many means, not just in private vehicles.
as did DOJ's Assistant Attorney General in 2005:
http://www.handgunlaw.us/documents/doj_doc_nyc_air.pdf
Sept/Oct has been bad months for us given this ruling and the Pa Superior Court ruling in McKownLast edited by tl_3237; October 30th, 2013 at 08:06 PM.
IANAL
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