Open Carry Councin Meeting

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Here's the deal. I'm an elected official of the Borough of Crafton. There has been some heated discussion on executive session than cannot be discussed in public. I made a request to the Borough Manager regarding a trend of the budget. Below is my response from the Chairman of Admin Committee and myself with a response from the President of Council.

Below is the email correspondence chain which resulted in the request for police presence at all future Crafton Borough Council Meetings from no until the end of the year. Keep in mind that our police force is down members as of now.

Our Mayor, who I stand by, is a retired member of the force and claims a pat down is not the same as illegal search and seizure, I claimed is was the same. I call BS on his claim.

What is the consensus of members here. Obviously some members of council, feel a need to have police presence at the rest of the meetings for 2013. There have been no threats made, what are my rights and what is the recourse should PD decide to single me out for a search at the meeting tomorrow night. I think its a civil rights violation and could be willing to pursue it.

Anyone local who wants to attend the meeting is at 7:15 tomorrow night. Could be interesting.

Council,

I have spoken with the Mayor and there will be an on site police presence for the remainder of 2013 Council meetings.


On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 8:21 PM, Doug Johnston wrote:
> No Susan, if a council member request something of the Borough
> manager, the Borough Manager should supply said request. It is not up
> to your un-godly decision to decide what I, or any other member of
> council, deems to be necessary to perform our duties as an elected
> official of the Borough of Crafton. If I ask the borough Manager for
> something, I damn well expect a response including what I asked for.
>
> The Borough Manager is responsible to all members of Council. Don't
> try to be an obstructionist. You as Vice-president of Council have no
> more authority than any of the other 7 members of Council excluding
> the "President" of Council.
>
> ----- Reply message -----
> From: "Susan O'Connell, Council"
> To: "'Doug Johnston'" ,
> "'Rober Callen'"
> Cc: "'April Weitzel'" , "'Mary
> Tremblay'" , "'David
> OBrien'" "'Joe Hayes'"
> , , "'Timothy
> Stewart'" , "'Tom Philips'"
>
> Subject: Budget Trend
> Date: Fri, Oct 11, 2013 7:21 pm
>
>
> Last year we all agreed to a process wherein requests of this type to
> the Borough Manager/Administration were to be routed thru the Admin
> Committee chair. I cannot find a copy of the email request
> referenced. If it was sent to me, I apologize for overlooking it.
>
>
>
> This will be placed on the agenda for the next Admin Cmte meeting. If
> anyone has any further suggestions regarding this topic, please route
> them to me so that we may discuss in a public meeting.
>
>
>
> Obviously, any processes or policies will have to apply to all
> employees equally.
>
>
>
> Thanks and have a great weekend! Susan
>
>
>
> Susan O'Connell
>
>
>
>
>
> The purpose of this communication is to provide information only. The
> information contained in this communication is not to be used for any
> action or deliberation, unless such action or deliberation is done in
> accordance with 65 Pa. C.S. §§701-716, known as the Sunshine Act
>
>
>
> From: Doug Johnston
> Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 4:41 PM
> To: Rober Callen
> Cc: April Weitzel; 'Mary Tremblay'; 'David OBrien'; Joe Hayes;
> ; Timothy Stewart; 'Tom Philips'; 'Susan O'Connell,
> Council'
> Subject: Re: Budget Trend
>
>
>
> The sooner the better. It is something that is very helpful in
> looking at past trends. Not sure why it took a second email and
> request for the information to get an answer. In my opinion this is no way to do business.
> The original request was sent at 4:02 pm on Wednesday. Maybe the
> Borough should institute a 24 hour rule for replying to email when
> something is requested.
>
> ----- Reply message -----
> From: "Rober Callen"
> To:
> Subject: Budget Trend
> Date: Fri, Oct 11, 2013 4:26 pm
>
>
>
> Budget items will be addressed week of 10/14 for 10/21 budget mtg. and
> sent to all Council members.
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Doug Johnston
> Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 4:19 PM
> To: 'Rober Callen'
> Cc: aprilweitzel 'Mary Tremblay'; 'David OBrien'
> Subject: Budget Trend
>
>
>
> Bob,
>
>
>
> What is the status of my request from Wednesday regarding the request
> for the 5 year budget trend. This is something that should be able to
> be produced relatively quickly from Quick Books and has been provided
> in the past. I don’t believe this request should take 2 days and if
> there is going to be any lengthy delay a response acknowledging the
> request would be appreciated.
>
>
>
> Please advise when I can expect to receive the requested information.
> You do have access to quick books and did receive training at the
> Borough’s expense. I would expect this to be a simple request.
>
>
>
> Thank you,



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April Weitzel
Crafton Borough Council

EDIT - REMOVED WHAT APPEARED TO BE PRIVATE EMAIL ADDRESSES AND PHONE NUMBERS. THE PUBLIC/OFFICIAL OFFICE ADDRESSES AND PH#'s REMAIN(I MAY HAVE DELETED A FEW OF THOSE TOO). ~knight0334