Results 1 to 10 of 22
-
May 9th, 2008, 07:52 PM #1
D.C. to arm police with assault rifles
How come all the Big cities with the most anti-gun laws on the books want to release these on the streets?
Wouldn't it be cheaper and more effective to let the people defend themselves with their own firearms?
http://www.washingtontimes.com/artic...ETRO/970320295
D.C. to arm police with assault rifles
The Metropolitan Police Department has joined other major U.S. cities in arming patrol officers with assault rifles to protect them against criminals with high-powered weapons, weeks after being released from a federal program that monitors the use of excessive force.
"We want to be as accurate as possible and have more stopping power," Assistant Chief Patrick Burke said yesterday.
The department already has 500 semiautomatic AR-15 rifles, which were converted from fully automatic rifles, and has trained 340 officers to use them.
Chief Burke said the weapons will go in service after the department decides how to rack them in patrol cars, but gave no specific start date.
The Chicago Police Department is making similar plans and the City of Miami Police Department is already using such weapons.
"We need to be equally equipped with the firearms that are being used against the police," said Monique Bond, a Chicago police spokeswoman. "If officers cannot protect themselves, they cannot protect residents."
Last month, Chicago had one of the most violent crime waves in recent history — 36 shootings in which nine people were killed and an AK-47 assault rifle was used to shoot up a plumbing-supply store.
Miami police began giving patrol police assault rifles in September, about a week before a Miami-Dade County officer was killed by a suspect with a high-powered rifle.
Miami Police Executive Assistant Delrish Moss said officials were reluctant to make such a decision but felt it was necessary.
Concerns about D.C. officers using excessive force surfaced after the city lowered standards in police recruiting in 1989 and 1990.
On April 7, the department qualified to end a seven-year, voluntary Justice Department oversight of incidents in which officers used their weapons or other forms of force in the line of duty.
City officers fatally shot 12 people in 1998, and the department led the country in fatal shootings in the 1990s.
However, the number of fatal police-involved shootings was five or fewer each year from 1999 to 2006, according to a report from the D.C. police department.
Last year, eight people were fatally shot by city officers, compared with two in 2006.
City officers fired 219 rounds last year, up from 64 in 2006. The department is now investigating the conduct of two officers who this month were exonerated by federal investigators in the fatal shooting of 14-year-old DeOnte Rawlings, whom they suspected in the theft of a mini-bike.
Ronald Moten, co-founder of the youth-advocacy group Peaceoholics, acknowledged that criminals, including youths, are getting their hands on powerful weapons that "you cannot buy in the store" but said giving police bigger guns will not solve the problem.
"If I was a police officer, I would want to be as equipped as the criminals," he said. "But I don't think it's the answer."
Prince George's County and Montgomery County police representatives said they have seen more powerful weapons used in recent years and have given officers the option to carry assault rifles.
City police did not have statistics yesterday on the types of weapons being used in crimes.
The department's SWAT already has such weapons. A spokesman for the Baltimore Police Department said only SWAT officers have assault rifles because the department has seen mostly handguns used in crime.
"It's a specialized weapon for specialized units," said Officer Troy Harris, a Baltimore police spokesman.
D.C. Council member Jim Graham said he would "be inclined to support" the use of assault rifles because he sees no alternative in the war on guns.
"When the criminals are armed better than the police, there's a problem," said Mr. Graham, Ward 1 Democrat, who last year dealt with hundreds of shootings between rival street gangs in his district. "What are we going to do?"
POLICE SHOOTINGS
A month after being freed from intensive federal monitoring of shooting incidents, D.C. patrol officers will be issued assault rifles to match the increasing firepower of violent criminals.
People People
Discharges* Shot Killed
1999 34 7 4
2000 20 6 1
2001 29 14 3
2002 24 5 5
2003 28 11 5
2004 28 10 2
2005 23 7 4
2006 13 6 2
2007 31 12 8
* Intentional firing at people
-
May 9th, 2008, 08:23 PM #2Super Member
- Join Date
- Apr 2007
- Location
-
Reading,
Pennsylvania
(Berks County) - Age
- 49
- Posts
- 934
- Rep Power
- 105
Re: D.C. to arm police with assault rifles
"The war on guns"?
When did that memo come out?
How about the war on free speech next? Or maybe the war on the right to a trial by jury?
I'm beginning to get the feeling that the bulk of the people in our nation are about as intelligent as one of the hammers I have in the garage.........
-
May 9th, 2008, 08:24 PM #3
Re: D.C. to arm police with assault rifles
Yeah I'll agree that on the surface it seems biased to give the weeapons to police in the cities with the most restrictions on LAGO's, but on the other hand should'nt the police be aloowed to have a chance to defend themsleves? Before anyone says it, That is exactly how I feel about citizens having them as well. Yes we should be allowed to defend ourselves in the manner you see most fitting to your given situation.
Dave3%
-
May 9th, 2008, 10:05 PM #4Member
- Join Date
- Oct 2007
- Location
-
Lehigh Valley,
Pennsylvania
- Age
- 46
- Posts
- 98
- Rep Power
- 34
-
May 9th, 2008, 10:16 PM #5
Re: D.C. to arm police with assault rifles
Anyone else curious why they modified them from full auto to semi?
How about this?
GIVE THE OFFICERS AK-47 rifles!
Ammo is cheaper, the bullets will shred cars as needed and they will have the same guns the guys on the streets use... I don't see many AR-15's being used in drive bys :P
-
May 9th, 2008, 10:40 PM #6
Re: D.C. to arm police with assault rifles
I find it amazing the cities with the most restrictive gun laws have the most gun crime . . . . while the cities with the most open gun laws have less gun crime.
Kennesaw, GA has a law that says every home owner must have a gun AND AMMO. Yet they have some the least gun crime in the nation . . . wonder why. Maybe guns are a deterant to gun crime rather than restrictive laws . . .
As for LEO's having better weapons . . . I'd give them tactical nukes if it would help!Honesta Mors Turpi Vita Potior ~ 3%
-
May 10th, 2008, 07:23 AM #7
Re: D.C. to arm police with assault rifles
The problem to me is why no one in the media, or in politics, including the Repubs, ever seems to point out this hyprocrisy. Gun control is the most counter-intuitive, ineffective answer to a problem which never really existed given the the US has some of the lowest violent crime rates int he world, at least in places where citizens are allowed to own and carry weapons.
"Political Correctness is just tyranny with manners"
-Charlton Heston
"[The Constitution preserves] the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation...(where) the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms."
-James Madison, Federalist Papers, No. 46.
"America does not go abroad in search of monsters to destroy." [sic]
-John Quincy Adams
"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies."
-Thomas Jefferson
Μολών λαβέ!
-King Leonidas
-
May 10th, 2008, 07:34 AM #8
Re: D.C. to arm police with assault rifles
DC isn't the only city arming themselves with AR-15's
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/....firepower.cnn
-
May 10th, 2008, 10:45 AM #9Senior Member
- Join Date
- Mar 2008
- Location
-
Philadelphia,
Pennsylvania
(Philadelphia County) - Posts
- 321
- Rep Power
- 844
Re: D.C. to arm police with assault rifles
EDIT: read the article wrong so forget my response.
-
May 10th, 2008, 12:23 PM #10
Re: D.C. to arm police with assault rifles
Just what's needed: a weapon for the police that'll make riddling innocent people with bullet holes a lot more easy.
Similar Threads
-
Disturbing Video, Police Assault Woman, Strip Searched
By sjl127 in forum GeneralReplies: 294Last Post: April 7th, 2009, 12:13 AM -
Iraqi police in Basra shed their uniforms, kept their rifles and switched sides
By WhiteFeather in forum GeneralReplies: 0Last Post: April 30th, 2008, 09:06 AM -
Current NRA Board Member Wants To BAN Assault Rifles!
By billt in forum GeneralReplies: 1Last Post: October 2nd, 2007, 08:43 AM -
US military cannot account for 190,000 AK-47 assault rifles & pistols given to the
By WhiteFeather in forum GeneralReplies: 6Last Post: August 6th, 2007, 04:56 PM -
Assault rifles
By BUCKMARK in forum GeneralReplies: 32Last Post: July 25th, 2007, 08:52 PM
Bookmarks