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Thread: 585 HE -- Cases In Production --
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April 6th, 2019, 09:29 PM #71Active Member
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Re: 585 HE -- Cases In Production --
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It is possible rig up holders for many types setups.,
About shellholder supply for big cases,
RCBS and others make slip in holders for shotgun cases
that can work or reworked for big rimmed rifle cases...
Here are various sizes.......
16ga-- .810" rim,........ 20ga-- .760" rim,....
24ga-- .725" rim,....... 28ga .680" rim....
Ch4d and Buffalo Arms also have these larger shellholders...
We fireform the 416 HSM with 65 gr of medium speed
surplus powder, with rest of case filled with farina
and grits mix, with a play dough plug in the neck.
It is loud, so we shoot it into big container through a barrel size
size hole, so the sound is muffled, so it doesn't deafen us..
It is great getting more companies making 416 caliber bullets,
long target and bore rider bullets. Ed..
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April 28th, 2019, 08:36 AM #72Active Member
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Re: 585 HE -- Cases In Production --
Wonder if a PTRD with 5 ft long barrel is stable enough
for ELR , rebarrel to 416 and use our 416 HSM, 500 gr bullet ....
.Here is up north guy using 585 HE in a PTRD with inserts,
Light load.....Inserts are in the shape of the 14.5mm case....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyab...ature=youtu.be
HERE ia video, 585 Hubel Express and water jugs - slow motion
750 gr with 155gr RE17, just a moderate load.....Ed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXAo1mJqw8Y
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July 20th, 2019, 06:33 PM #73Active Member
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Re: 585 HE -- Cases In Production --
20mm Vulcan is a big case that works ok, without having
the sides made too thick...They have thinner sides
than smaller cases guys are getting that have the sides
made too thick and won't extract easy or work with high pressures.
Here Barnard P Cheytac bolt that would do for our 416 HSM..Ed......
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September 17th, 2019, 09:43 AM #74Active Member
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Re: 585 HE -- Cases In Production --
Got guys doing various 416 HEs..
One just built a 416 HE, just been testing it a few days..
And using 168gr of HBMG 475 gr CEB, tested it, in good
conditions, 2 shots at 1800 yards and was within
a 1/4 of minute accuracy...A few shots at shorter ranges
had same accuracy. Ed..
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November 24th, 2019, 06:30 AM #75Active Member
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Re: 585 HE -- Cases In Production --
More about our 416 HSM from BMG brass, and
our 416 HE & 460 HE from our 585 HE cases
Got reamers for 375 HE, 416 HE and 416 HSM,....
460 HE & 460 HSM are all spec'd, got HE reamer
soon have HSM reamer...Our HSMs have a Wea type
radius on the shoulder..
The fellow that set up our 416 HE in an ELR rifle
and got 1/4 min accuracy,
They got some game out west over 1400 yds..
.Here is the gun they set up.
Using a K&P 34" barrel on a BAT action.....Ed
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November 27th, 2019, 03:36 PM #76Active Member
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Re: 585 HE -- Cases In Production --
And have got 460 HSM specs setup, the impetus for that is some
asking about one and new great line of 458 bullets CEB now has.
It will hold more powder than the 416 HSM and will get
a 572 gr as fast as 416 HSM gets a 475gr.....Ed..
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November 29th, 2019, 09:56 AM #77
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November 29th, 2019, 08:14 PM #78Active Member
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Re: 585 HE -- Cases In Production --
We already have the real slow powders we need, most of
them needed are the real slow military surplus ones.We have good supply.
Double base ball and extruded; and single base extruded... ED
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January 24th, 2020, 07:50 AM #79Active Member
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Re: 585 HE -- Cases In Production --
The guys that did the super accurate 416 HE did another
416 HE that has an 8" longer 42 inch K&P barrel..
Used a Stiller action and same load with 475 gr bullet, as in
first gun and and gained about 200 fps with good accuracy.
3065 fps. Tested 2 groups of 3 and less than 1/2 min moa.
And loads they used are not the highest speed loads
the cartridge is capable of....Here is print with specs for
the 416 HE reamer chamber ....Ed....
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February 11th, 2020, 09:38 AM #80Active Member
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Re: 585 HE -- Cases In Production --
More about he guys that did the accurate 416 HE, they did a
416 HE that has an 8" longer 42 inch K&P barrel..
Used longer barrel and the same load with 475 gr bullet, as used
in the first gun and and gained about 200 fps with good accuracy,.
3065 fps. Tested 2 groups of 3 and less than 1/2 min moa.
And loads they used are not the highest speed loads
the cartridge is capable of....Here is picture.......Ed....
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