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    Default Dallas cops shoot, kill homeowner who killed man breaking into his house

    http://www.guns.com/2013/09/28/dalla...g-house-video/

    In what could definitely be described as a bizarre event, two men are dead after an apparent attempted home burglary in Dallas Thursday night.

    According to a local CBS affiliate, the homeowner shot the man suspected of attempting to break into his home, but once officers arrived on the scene, they shot the homeowner as well. Both the suspect and the homeowner were pronounced dead at the scene.

    It was about 7:45 p.m. when the homeowner, 57-year-old William Hall, caught 30-year-old Jerry Hale in the alley beside his home apparently with the intentions of breaking into his home. But Hall, armed with a 9mm handgun, confronted Hale and shot him.

    Several witnesses heard multiple shots and called 911, and also noted that Hale, who was already injured and lying on the ground in a pool of blood, was begging for Hall not to kill him.

    One witness, Juan Garcia, told reporters, “Before the cops came, we told him to put the gun down. We said the cops are coming. He didn’t care. He, after that, said, ‘I’m going to shoot him again.’ He just pointed the gun at him. We’re like, ‘No! No! Don’t! Don’t!’ He just pointed the gun at us and we ducked,” Garcia recalled. “We were scared for our lives.”

    David Murphrey, another witness, told Hall, “No, don’t kill him. I’ve already called the cops. Cops are on the way.” To which Hall responded, “Good, I’m going to kill him and then I’m going to shoot them, too.” Murphrey then just said, “Oh, my God,” and walked away.
    Photo of Jerry Wayne Hale. An unconfirmed report indicated that Hale believed the homeowner had died and the house was empty. (Photo credit: Dallas News)

    Photo of Jerry Wayne Hale. An unconfirmed report indicated that Hale believed the homeowner had died and the house was empty. (Photo credit: Dallas News)

    At least three different witnesses confirmed that Hall had threatened them while pointing his gun at them.

    When police arrived a few minutes later, in the confusion they were unaware who the homeowner was and who was the suspect and the fact that Hall refused to drop his weapon certainly did not help to de-escalate the situation.

    Initially, paramedics were not even able to get into the alleyway to attend to Hale because the situation was too dangerous with Hall refusing to back down.

    Officers repeatedly told Hall to drop his weapon, but he wouldn’t. When Hall eventually turned his gun on the officers, that’s when they opened fire on him.

    “According to three independent witnesses, the officers were giving loud verbal commands to the man to drop his weapon,” Maj. Jeff Cotner with the Dallas Police Department said following the incident. “The man pointed his weapon at the officers and the officers fired their weapons in defense.”

    “The cops repeated it. They said it like 20 to 25 times, put the gun down, put the gun down. And all of a sudden, he cocked it,” recalled Garcia. “They had to do what they had to do.”

    Other witnesses agreed that the officers told Hall to drop his weapon at least 20 times, to no avail.

    Hall and Hale were both pronounced dead at the scene, and no other injuries were reported.

    It’s unknown why Hall reacted to the witnesses and police in the manner which he did. Neighbors say that they know very little about the man, who had lived there for several years.

    Hall had been unemployed for years and neighbors say they rarely saw him come out of his house. Areas of his home were boarded up with wood and apparently he did not have working utilities at the house. City officials had visited the house in the past, due to the condition of the building and multiple code violations.

    Hall was described by his neighbors as a hoarder and a recluse. It is unknown if Hall had any family.
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    Default Re: Dallas cops shoot, kill homeowner who killed man breaking into his house

    Sounds like society got a two-fer this time.
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    Default Re: Dallas cops shoot, kill homeowner who killed man breaking into his house

    Sounds like suicide by cops. Wonder if the first guy shot was really going t break into the house?

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    Default Re: Dallas cops shoot, kill homeowner who killed man breaking into his house

    Probably a gay love affair gone bad. Only two things come from Texas . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by PocketProtector View Post

    Hall was described by his neighbors as a hoarder and a recluse.
    Most hoarders have severe mental problems, so this story is no surprise.
    You can never have enough horsepower or ammunition.

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    Default Re: Dallas cops shoot, kill homeowner who killed man breaking into his house

    Quote Originally Posted by Grey Bearded One View Post
    Probably a gay love affair gone bad. Only two things come from Texas . . .
    Couldn't help but laugh at that one. Damn button was broken again.

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    Default Re: Dallas cops shoot, kill homeowner who killed man breaking into his house

    Quote Originally Posted by 625 View Post
    Most hoarders have severe mental problems, so this story is no surprise.
    Consider how many guns and how much ammo many of us have, we'd be described as hoarders by most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grey Bearded One View Post
    Consider how many guns and how much ammo many of us have, we'd be described as hoarders by most.
    Meh, I don't have that much guns and ammo. However, if someone saw my Malibu Stacy or shoe collection, they might raise an eyebrow.
    You can never have enough horsepower or ammunition.

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    Feels weird to say this...but I think the cops actually got it right this time. Very stressfull and fluid situation, and they made the right call. Also a hidden bonus: no bystanders(or dogs) were shot by police.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grey Bearded One View Post
    Consider how many guns and how much ammo many of us have, we'd be described as hoarders by most.
    Radical right wing Tea Party extremest hoarders.

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