NO GUNS at the Bloomsburg Fair

[XTrooper]

This is the email I just got back and it made my head spin with anger!


"The decision was made because of Homeland Security and the Pennsylvania
State Police telling us no guns, however if you have a permit you will be
allowed to carry your gun conceiled. Rod"

This was from Rod Ralston, I believe he is the secretary


Can somebody tell me when we started letting homeland security or PSP tell us when we can exercise our rights and when we can't?

This is BS. Neither DHS nor the PSP have the power to tell the board of a private fair, "no guns." This is a convenient lie they are now spewing so they can use the "they made us do it" excuse. It's a crock.

[rch105]

Having dealt with DHS/TSA and PSP in the past (i.e. since DHS's existance and PSP for 37+ years), one thing comes to mind...It doesn't surprise me one bit how they approached the fair personnel. DHS sometimes believes they are above the law, same goes for the others. I seldom talk down my "Brothers" but most times they are following orders from their supervisors and if they could, they'd rather not hassle the public.

Hope what is written about the LTC is correct.

[XTrooper]

He stated to me that DHS sent 7 agents to discuss this with him and he needed to do something. He agrees this is a violation of gun owners rights.

So he agrees it's a violation of gun owner's rights, but he did it anyway because why? DHS sent 7 "agents" to discuss it with him? He could have told the 7 of them to pound sand and thrown them out of his office if he wanted to.

Also, I'd be interested to know what agency these unidentified agents were from. There is no such thing as a "DHS agent." The Department of Homeland Security is composed of seven different agencies: Customs & Border Protection, Citizenship & Immigration Services, the Coast Guard, FEMA, ICE, the Secret Service, and the TSA. Exactly which one of these organizations does "Local Fair Security" fall under?

Call me a skeptic, but I find this whole story hard to swallow. So DHS sent not one, not two, but seven agents to an obscure private fair because Columbia County, PA is such a hotbed of terrorist activity? I'd believe the PSP story before this one.

[rch105]

Steve,
Having dealt with TSA since it's inception, my guess would be TSA. All regulatory, no enforcement abilities. Things go to their heads...

[Svickstc]

funny because Rod, just emailed me back and said that "he didnt know the rules" as when i asked why the PSP would be making this call?

and to contact Bill Barret, but ive sent Bill 2 emails now, about to make a phone call

[XTrooper]

Steve,
Having dealt with TSA since it's inception, my guess would be TSA. All regulatory, no enforcement abilities. Things go to their heads...

Thanks for the insight, amigo. From my dealings with TSA agents in various airports around the country, I'm surprised that many of them can even dress themselves.

"Yesterday I couldn't spell detective, now I are one!"

[XTrooper]

funny because Rod, just emailed me back and said that "he didnt know the rules" as when i asked why the PSP would be making this call?

and to contact Bill Barret, but ive sent Bill 2 emails now, about to make a phone call

I emailed my letter to four of the board members this morning: Giger, VP; Ralston, Secretary; Barratt, Superintendent of Police; and Burrows, Treasurer.

I haven't received a single reply from any of them.

[vanwhyjr]

Sounds like he made a rash liberal decision and is trying to cover his ass.

[Svickstc]

I emailed my letter to four of the board members this morning: Giger, VP; Ralston, Secretary; Barratt, Superintendent of Police; and Burrows, Treasurer.

I haven't received a single reply from any of them.

I did the same as the president email did not work for me

Only was responded to twice in a very short manner by rod

[Mattintaylor]

Sounds like he made a rash liberal decision and is trying to cover his ass.

^ this is exactly what happened. I am sure they are going to have a no guns sign at the door and no mention of allowing in gun owners that are permitted to conceal leagally. Then the first time some jackass reports someone for printing they will be arrested for trespassing because of their sign. They should either admit they goofed up and drop it or put up a sign like gander mtn has where it says their gun regulations do not apply to people legally carrying openly or concealed.