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    Default Loose your Job or Lose your Life

    http://lookaroundhr.com/2008/04/30/l...-or-your-life/

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    Loose Your Job or Your Life?
    April 30, 2008 at 7:18 am

    The issue of guns in the workplace has been on the front pages since the Florida legislature recently passed a new law prohibiting employers from banning guns in their parking lots. Business interests have immediately filed injunctions to stop this, and the general assumption in HR is that we would be safer to continue outlawing guns anywhere on company property.

    However, an interesting situation occurred in Iowa about a month ago that involved a pizza delivery man. He was delivering the pizza to an apartment complex when an armed robber approached him. James Spiers, who was delivering the pizza, reacted immediately, grabbed the gun from the robber, and pulled out his own gun and shot Kenneth Jimmerson, who tried robbing him.

    It was deemed that Spiers acted in self-defense and would not be charged. He had a permit to carry the gun. However, Pizza Hut did not feel the same way about the situation.

    After initially suspending Spiers, he was fired about two weeks ago and given a severance package that included two months pay.

    Here is what Pizza Hut had to say about the situation:

    Vonnie Walbert, vice president of human resources at Pizza Hut’s corporate offices in Dallas, also told the Des Moines Register that the company prohibits employees from carrying guns “because we believe that that is the safest for everybody.”

    Walbert did not say whether Pizza Hut had a written policy in place banning weapons at work.
    The only person that would have been safe if Spiers was not carrying a gun would have been the armed robber.

    This is similar to a story from Florida last year where an apartment leasing agent was fired for grabbing his shotgun and going to help a woman after he heard gunfire. Colin Bruley may have helped save a woman’s life by getting to the scene of the crime so fast, but it didn’t help him save his own job.
    Last edited by lildobe; April 30th, 2008 at 08:54 PM.

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    Default Re: Loose your Job or Loose your Life

    Every one of those employers should be shunned, too.

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    Default Re: Loose your Job or Loose your Life

    Am I reading this correctly?

    Was this man who legally defended himself, delivering for Pizza Hut using HIS OWN vehicle?

    I'll mince words here? Was he actually carrying a firearm in the workplace? Did he leave the firearm in his car and carried it only off Pizza Hut property?

    Would Pizza Hut have paid the medical bills for this man had he been injured? Would Pizza Hut have paid the funeral expenses for this man had he been killed?
    I doubt it. It didn't happen on Pizza Hut property afterall.

    I call total bullshit!

    Okay, rant over.

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    Default Re: Loose your Job or Loose your Life

    Guess I can cross one more company off of my list of places that I eat/shop.

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    Default Re: Loose your Job or Loose your Life

    Sorry, Don't eat from Pizza places that I can fry my french fries in the puddles of grease on their slices of Pizza.
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    ~Jester~

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    Default Re: Loose your Job or Loose your Life

    that pizza del guy should file a law suit against pizza crotch. seams like the thing to do these days..

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    Default Re: Loose your Job or Loose your Life

    <GrammarNazi>
    Loose ≠ Lose
    </GrammarNazi>

    Sorry, my inner Grammar Nazi couldn't resist. :-)

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    Default Re: Loose your Job or Loose your Life

    Quote Originally Posted by awkx View Post
    <GrammarNazi>
    Loose ≠ Lose
    </GrammarNazi>

    Sorry, my inner Grammar Nazi couldn't resist. :-)
    took me a minute to figure it out... hey, the person could of been mexican? like loose yur jop main..

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    Default Re: Lose your Job or Lose your Life

    It's simple for me. Pizza Hut prohibits employees from carrying firearms. It is black and white.
    Jules

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    Default Re: Lose your Job or Lose your Life

    Lose your job or your life. Thats what I answer with at work when I'm asked if I would use my gun to defend myself at work. After we had a few vehicle breakins at work I stopped leaving my gun in the car, now I may or may not have it in my bag in the ambulance while I am on the street. Now assuming that I did break company policy as well as EHSF mandate and used my firearm in a self defense situation, my job is the last thing that I'm gonna be thinking about.

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