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February 28th, 2013, 10:36 PM #1
open carry reciprocity question
Friends, I need to know if I'll be legal in Pa for the following circumstances.
1. I grew up in PA, I now live in Vermont, since 1984.
2. I do not need a permit to carry a handgun in Vermont. Yeah !
3. I have a non-resident concealed carry permit for New Hampshire, since I live along the border and often drift across the river into NH.
4. New Hampshire and Pennsylvania have reciprocity for handgun permits. Yes?
5. When I travel in Pennsylvania, may I legally carry a handgun under my New Hampshire non-resident concealed carry permit? I would like to open carry in PA in the woods in Schuyllkill, Northumberland and Columbia Counties, and I need to transport the Ruger Blackhawk, "low capacity six-shooter" in my car. I appreciate you sharing your seasoned knowledge feedback with me on this topic.
Thank you, Shrubdog.only connect...
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February 28th, 2013, 11:04 PM #2
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February 28th, 2013, 11:15 PM #3
Re: open carry reciprocity question
Pennsylvania honors non-resident permits from states we have reciprocity with. That will cover you for carrying in any manner you wish to in PA. That said, you would be ok to open carry even if PA did not honor the NH non-resident permit, as no license or permit is required to open carry in Pa, except in cities of the first class (only Philadelphia).
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March 1st, 2013, 01:21 PM #4Super Member
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March 1st, 2013, 01:28 PM #5
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The only place "reciprocity" has any bearing on open carry is in Philly. To transport a "firearm" in a vehicle in PA you need a permit from ANY state. Outside of a vehicle, and outside of Philly, no permit is needed to OC.
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March 1st, 2013, 01:29 PM #6
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And Pennsylvania does not honor non-resident permits from all states they have reciprocity with. Most, but it seems there are some conditions. Florida non-resident is not honored in PA. I also read something here about Maine recently but I forget.
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March 1st, 2013, 01:32 PM #7
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Emphasis added on "transport." You can't OC in PA unless you drive directly to and from a range (or other excepted place) from Vermont or you walk to and from PA from Vermont and spend all your time walking in PA. You can't drive around with a handgun in your trunk in PA without at least a permit from any state.
So, a permit is damn well needed to OC in 99.9% of circumstances.
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March 1st, 2013, 01:50 PM #8
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March 1st, 2013, 08:46 PM #9
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There is a recent thread on here with a video showing a man questioning AG Kane, and she indicates they are looking at Pa's reciprocity agreements with them to determine if modifications like what happened with FL are "necessary".
That's why I mentioned reciprocity, too. How many LEOs would be familiar with non PA residents open carrying and carrying a firearm in their vehicle without a license. Recipe for trouble, I'm thinking. Anyone wanna come back from Vermont in a few months to stand in front of a judge to sort it out. Didn't think so.Power always thinks...that it is doing God's service when it is violating all his laws.
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March 1st, 2013, 10:21 PM #10
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It doesn't matter what Kane does about reciprocal agreements when it comes to vehicle transporting. State law says that a permit from ANY other state is valid within a vehicle. Since the OP has a NH permit, it is valid in a vehicle in PA even if Kane completely voids the NH agreement. Out of the vehicle he can OC, like he had planned even if Kane voids the NH+PA agreement completely.
And I seriously doubt the line item text she has changed with the FL has any authority under law. The law determines what is prosecutable.RIP: SFN, 1861, twoeggsup, Lambo, jamesjo, JayBell, 32 Magnum, Pro2A, mrwildroot, dregan, Frenchy, Fragger, ungawa, Mtn Jack, Grapeshot, R.W.J., PennsyPlinker, Statkowski, Deanimator, roland, aubie515
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