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    NJ Liberals are doing their best to drive gun owners out of the State. The rash of bills they jammed through Committee today and will be approved by the Dem controlled Assembly reek of fascism, yes fascism. I still have to work in NJ/NY but I don't have to live there. Matamoras has caught my attention because it is close to the Port Jervis line. How 2A friendly is that town? I would hate to move there and learn it is Dem controlled and having them embrace anti-gun laws locally despite pre-emption (I heard Philly is famous for that). In my wife and me you will have two Pro-2A voters headed your way, and fast. I was on this forum a few years ago looking to make this move and then the economy collapsed. I don't have much of a choice now.

    Know any good realtors that support the 2A in Pike or Wayne? A good realtor is the fundamental requirement, but I could have a lot of questions about where to shoot, local gun clubs and things. I don't need some liberal realtor looking like he or she just swallowed a lemon if I raise the subject.

    Similarly, I need a Pro 2A lawyer for advice on how I establish residence and get my firearms legally transported into PA, timing it so that when I lose my NJ resident status, I have my firearms out of NJ so as not to be owning them illegally as a non-resident.

    Any help for a political refugee from NJ would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

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    Matamoras or Milford are good towns. They both fall under the jurisdiction of the Pike County Sheriff's Department. Sheriff Bueki is pro 2A and obtaining your LTCF is straightforward. Open carry is fine and normally accepted in many places in Pike county.

    BTW, I don't think you'd need to find a 2A friendly realtor. Just find a good one. You can get all your firearm info regarding PA here.
    Last edited by amstel78; February 14th, 2013 at 12:59 AM.
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    my brother is comin out of scotch plains over here in the next couple months. for same reasons. his story is virtually your op.

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    I'm a NJ transplant myself. Make sure you look around really well because you get a lot for your NJ buck in real estate over here. If you don't mind being just outside of towns like Milford or Matamoros you get even MORE for your money and less in property taxes. In 2003 I sold my house in NJ for 250k with $4200 per year in taxes and bought one over here twice as big for 104k and $900 per year in taxes. Never regretted it for a second. I know several people with only a few acres who have small gun ranges right on their own property and never had a hassle with neighbors or police. Whole different world over here. And make damn sure you don't end up in any of the "bad" areas over here, that's where a good agent comes in handy. They'll know what's bad and what's not. Best of luck.
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    Good for you! I live in Dingmans Ferry and work in Randolph New Jersey. A long commute. But when I come home to Pennsylvania I get a warm fuzzy feeling. LOL!

    A lot of people up here commute to New Jersey for work. When I lived by Lake Wallenpaupack I knew someone who drove to Newark every day. Now that was a long drive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoconoJo View Post
    I know several people with only a few acres who have small gun ranges right on their own property and never had a hassle with neighbors or police.
    I'm sure that will change over time as more antis move here also.

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    I drive from Gold Key to Newburgh for work. I think it's 62 miles from my house to the firehouse. But when you're working 24hr shifts, you never notice the drive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AirportFF View Post
    I'm sure that will change over time as more antis move here also.
    This is a growing concern as I see more and more people buying "summer houses" and eventually moving into the area from NJ/NY. The worst thing is the amount of people that aren't just gun owners jumping the border to more freedom, there is a large influx from places like Brooklyn, Bronx, etc.

    OP, if you are interested my wife's cousin is a realtor and works out of the Davis Chant Milford office.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stonesriver1862 View Post
    NJ Liberals are doing their best to drive gun owners out of the State...
    I couldn't agree more. These bills are surely going to get rammed through the way they did with the OGAM (One Gun A Month) law a couple years ago. No matter how much testimony was offered, they went ahead with it. It's just the way NJ works, and it won't get any better any time soon.

    As a former NJ resident (Bergen and Ocean counties) who moved here 3 years ago this coming April, I can tell you that I'm not looking back for even one second. I've had the good fortune to find like-minded friends in the area, and also in my community (Gold Key Lake).

    For realtors, I'd suggest Peggy Koch of Dingman Agency. Very right-leaning and not a hard-sell approach.

    If you think you'd like to snoop around the area, I'd be happy to drive you around, though there are other fellas here that are far more familiar with the area than I am.

    To touch on the comment about 'bad' areas, some communities have suffered more from the influx of sub-prime buyers more than others, and that becomes a bit obvious as you drive through a neighborhood and look around. This is especially true of areas further South closer to Rt. 80 such as Marshall's Creek and East Stroudsburg, though it's starting to correct itself.

    There are occasional reports of drugs, burglaries and the like, but that seems to be diminishing as those "problem children" move out of the area having lost their homes due to the mortgage meltdown. I also tend to agree with amstel78 that it's a matter of perspective - for those of us who are used to NJ levels of crime, it's pretty tame. Every neighborhood - even the "nice" ones with McMansions - have their share of problems. Those folks just do a better job of hiding it.

    On the whole, life up here is great. Lots to do in the warmer weather, and I hope that as we get more residents moving in having been burned by the NJ and NY legislatures, that we stack the odds further in our favor and keep Pike County politically right-leaning, and an entirely gun-friendly place to live.

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