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    Default Building your own suppressor

    Has anyone ever done this ?

    The ATF has recently started approving private transfers and/or Form1s to manufacture SBRs, SBS and Silencers to those non-prohibited folks who are 18 and older.
    However, weapons that are UNDER the 26" OAL, or a shotgun with a barrel less than 18", or a rifle with a barrel less than 16" are considered "firearms" in PA...meaning they are cancelable for CC permit purposes, thus they must be transferred thru a dealer, and must go on the PICS pistol form...so it's unknown at this time if you must be 21 to put something that’s NOT a pistol on the PICS form and transfer it through a dealer.

    Now, the NFA process is not a licensing or permit process per se.

    It's basically paying a federal luxury tax to own a restricted and controlled class of weapon.

    The tax is a onetime payment to the federal Govt, and all tax records are confidential, ATF does not, and cannot release ownership info without a criminal case, or court order....the info is similar to your IRS 1040.

    This tax privacy restriction ONLY counts for the Feds, local LEs that have this information are not restricted legally from using it, or releasing it!

    Most folks dont have the patience to go thru the process, or thier local CLEO wont sign, etc....I'll touch more on this later.

    Tax fees for NFA items are on a set scale, most have been set since 1934 at one rate, others have been changed over the years to add or remove certain weapon classes.

    The one time TRANSFER (from dealer to buyer in state, or private seller to buyer in state) tax of $200 is for:
    Machineguns
    Silencers/Suppressors
    Short barrel Shotguns
    Short Barrel Rifles
    Destructive devices

    A one time transfer tax of $5 is for all AOWs "Any other Weapons" which includes smoothbore pistols, cane guns, wallet holsters, briefcase guns, gadget guns, pen guns, etc.

    You can indeed make most NFA items with prior approval from the ATF, you don’t have to be a licensed dealer or manufacturer to make NFA items for your personal use, you merely have to fill out the paperwork, provide required info, pay the tax, and get approval first.

    To MAKE any NFA firearm is a single one time $200 tax PER ITEM.

    You can make all NFA firearms listed above for personal use except machineguns, and explosive destructive devices.

    Explosive destructive devices may not be possessed in PA by civilians(non DD dealers/MFGs) regardless of registration status.

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    Default Re: Building your own suppressor

    Bump, ANYONE ? ? ? ? ?

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    Default Re: Building your own suppressor

    What is the question? Can you build one legally? Yes-Follow the laws as you described, lots of info out there- Hope that answers your question.

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    Default Re: Building your own suppressor

    What is the question?

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    Default Re: Building your own suppressor

    My understanding is that you can design all day long. But you best have the stamp before you put tool to metal.
    troll Free. It's all in your mind.

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    Default Re: Building your own suppressor

    I don't understand the question. Can an 18 year old build a can? And SBR? An SBS? Yes, if the ATF will approve a Form 1, no PICs check required. Can an 18 year old build a handgun? Yes, no PICs check required. Does an SBR/SBS/Small AOW require a PICs check to transfer in PA? Yes, they are considered "firearms (in the handgun sense) due to barrel length or overall length as you point out. Do a stripped, virgin AR receiver or M1919 sideplate require a PICs check for trannsfer? No. They are "other," not pistol or rifle.

    Do those examples help? I wasn't sure I got the questino so I threw out several examples of the kind of things you were bringing up.

    And what's with ATF recently approving Form 1/4 for people over 18? Did you have to be over 21 until recently? I did not know that.

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    Default Re: Building your own suppressor

    The question was the first line . . .

    "Has anyone ever done this ?"

    Has anyone done the ATF paperwork built their own suppressor and had it all go thru ok ?

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    Default Re: Building your own suppressor

    [QUOTE=RBELARDI;2306028]The question was the first line . . .

    "Has anyone ever done this ?"

    Has anyone done the ATF paperwork built their own suppressor and had it all go thru ok ?[/QUOTE]

    Go here;

    http://www.silencertalk.com/forum/vi...4a62356adc9e76
    NEVER TRUST A PRIVATE WITH A LOADED WEAPON OR AN OFFICER WITH A MAP

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    Default Re: Building your own suppressor

    [QUOTE=GUNGUY45;2306040]
    Quote Originally Posted by RBELARDI View Post
    The question was the first line . . .

    "Has anyone ever done this ?"

    Has anyone done the ATF paperwork built their own suppressor and had it all go thru ok ?[/QUOTE]

    Go here;

    http://www.silencertalk.com/forum/vi...4a62356adc9e76
    Thanks a lot

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    Default Re: Building your own suppressor

    I dont understand what u are talking about, i asked a question and i got an answer . . .

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