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    Default Re: Keystone Cops friendly-fire shooting

    That third shot was to make sure that milk jug carrying son of a bitch didn't get any bright ideas and come back out brandishing his dairy in response to the first two shots.

    Next time he'll leave the milk inside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NathanW View Post
    Your opinion, yes, however not a very well thought out one. Shooting at which of the four officers one the scene would have been justified (in your humble (and rather uneducated) humble opinion!?) was one of the officers on scene conducting himself in a manner outside of his training? We don't know that yet, was there a firearm malfunction? Again we don't know that yet, did someone possibly slip and fall on some ice resulting in an negligent discharge? Again we done know that yet. So, until all of the details of the incident have been released PLEASE, refrain from your extremely uneducated pontificating on this matter.
    In a better world, the above post is facetious.

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    I believe that this demonstrates why the police don't need "patrol rifles."


    Also, notice that when the police have them, they are called "patrol rifles" but when the citizenry has them, they are called "assault rifles" and could be loaded with "assault bullets."

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    I believe they're also referred to as "personal defense rifles" when supplied to government agents and LEO.

    Those would be fully automatic, by the way. Yet if I own a semi-auto rifle, it's an assault rifle.

    Funny how even with the evil-sounding name, none of my guns have ever been used to shoot an officer nor someone's house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yachera View Post
    What sort of domestic dispute warrants patrol rifles anyway? I really want to find out what happened, since I noticed that.
    They seemed alittle too excitable.
    The incident began with a 3:45 a.m. phone call from a home on the 5100 block of Elmwood Drive in Baldwin Borough. The caller told police her boyfriend, armed with a loaded shotgun, was distraught and threatening to harm himself. She locked herself in a bedroom and soon told dispatchers that her boyfriend had unloaded the shotgun and that they no longer needed to come.

    Subject has a shotgun police bring an AR15, sounds like a good response.

    And remember back to April 2009 when three Pittsburgh Police Officers were killed at a domestic call. Good reason to bring a rifle to a domestic call.
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    Please Note: The poster was issued a warning for this post.

    Quote Originally Posted by NathanW View Post
    ... We don't know that yet, was there a firearm malfunction? Again we don't know that yet, did someone possibly slip and fall on some ice resulting in an negligent discharge? Again we done know that yet.
    Lemme guess, you're a cop? Or do you just like to blow them? I've never seen such a pathetic attempt at grasping straws, except by police department spokesmen.
    Last edited by Adam-12; February 11th, 2013 at 08:05 AM.

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    Every time I read the back and forth crap that fills many threads on this forum it becomes more apparent that we will never be able to get anywhere as a firearm community.

    There is a good discussion to be had here but it's been lost in all the distraction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pector55 View Post
    Every time I read the back and forth crap that fills many threads on this forum it becomes more apparent that we will never be able to get anywhere as a firearm community.

    There is a good discussion to be had here but it's been lost in all the distraction.
    Isn't that the truth....

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveM55 View Post
    The incident began with a 3:45 a.m. phone call from a home on the 5100 block of Elmwood Drive in Baldwin Borough. The caller told police her boyfriend, armed with a loaded shotgun, was distraught and threatening to harm himself. She locked herself in a bedroom and soon told dispatchers that her boyfriend had unloaded the shotgun and that they no longer needed to come.

    Subject has a shotgun police bring an AR15, sounds like a good response.

    And remember back to April 2009 when three Pittsburgh Police Officers were killed at a domestic call. Good reason to bring a rifle to a domestic call.
    I like how you bolded that, instead of "told dispatchers that her boyfriend had unloaded the shotgun and that they no longer needed to come."

    Those milk containers are pretty life-threatening, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pector55 View Post
    Every time I read the back and forth crap that fills many threads on this forum it becomes more apparent that we will never be able to get anywhere as a firearm community.

    There is a good discussion to be had here but it's been lost in all the distraction.
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    Isn't that the truth....
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