Inventory vs Production

[NightRocker]

Inventory vs Production...
I have no idea of the authenticity of the following....simply found it online and it "sounds" like the author might know what he's talking about.



"We traveled to Texas for Industry meetings concerning the shortages, here's what we were told. Smith & Wesson-is running at Full capacity making 300+ guns/day-mainly M&P pistols. They are unable to produce any more guns to help with the shortages. RUGER: Plans to increase from 75% to 100% in the next 90 days. FNH: Moving from 50% production to 75% by Feb 1st and 100% by March 1. Remington-Maxed out! Armalite: Maxed out. DPMS: Can't get enough parts to produce any more product. COLT: Production runs increasing weekly...bottle necked by Bolt carrier's. LWRC:Making only black guns, running at full capacity...can't get enough gun quality steel to make barrels. Springfield Armory: Only company who can meet demand but are running 30-45 days behind. AMMO: Every caliber is now Allocated! We are looking at a nation wide shortage of all calibers over the next 9 months. All plants are producing as much ammo as possible w/ of 1 BILLION rnds produced weekly. Most is military followed by L.E. and civilians are third in line. MAGPUL is behind 1 MILLION mags, do not expect any large quanties of magpul anytime soon. RELOADERS!!!! ALL Remington, Winchester, CCI & Federal primers are going to ammo FIRST. There are no extra's for reloading purposes....it could be 6-9 months b/f things get caught up."

[Obelix]

Sounds about right... Except I saw a Magpul rep post on another forum recently that the 1 million mag figure is incorrect (but he wouldn't say what the correct figure is because it is proprietary classified highly sensitive double-secret information).

Of course... I also heard from a (not-so-credible) source that all firearms manufacturers have drastically scaled back or halted production because they are afraid of being stuck with a bunch of guns that would be illegal to sell in the event of a ban

[Svickstc]

^^^Once their manufactured they are pre ban are they not? Anything produced would be able to be sold

[staylo]

That matches what I was told by my LGS. Most items are now allocated, and ammo was being produced almost solely for a large military order that would take through Feb to fulfill. Maybe they're buying ammo while they still have money before the sequester hits.

[Obelix]

^^^Once their manufactured they are pre ban are they not? Anything produced would be able to be sold

I agree that they could be preban and legal to sell, but I guess that depends on the legal details of the ban... Also, since they are selling guns faster than they can make them it makes no sense to stop making them! You hear all kinds of interesting rumors these days...

[staylo]

Whether the ban goes into effect or not I think the black gun manufacturers are going to be hurting when this is over. If the ban passes then they'll be out of work. Civilian sales will stop, and with the troops being pulled out of Afghanistan soon military demand should drop off. If it doesn't pass then the demand for these guns will disappear. Everyone who's wanted one either already has one, or is waiting for one to become available to purchase. If the ban fails then all the paranoia purchases will disappear. They'd better make hay while the sun is shining.

[Yellowfin]

Even if the political black clouds go away there will still be enormous demand for AR's as we saw since 2004: AR's are the guns people want. Maybe we all have the 5.56 guns we want, but then there's .300 Blackout, 6.8 SPC, 6.5 Grendel, .22LR, .458 SOCOM/.450 Bushmaster/.50 Beowulf, 9mm/.40/.45, 7.62x39, .358 Gremlin--have we maxed out that demand? I doubt it, not even close. It's so adaptable and handy, shoots well, etc. that it will probably outlast the constant demand and production runs of the Winchester 94 and Marlin 336 which were over 100 years. Supposedly you'd think that we'd have run out of demand for .38 Special and .357 revolvers after as many millions of those have sold but nope, still selling the heck out of them too.

BTT, anyone know about Wolf primers? Still available?

[Interceptor]

If it doesn't pass then the demand for these guns will disappear. Everyone who's wanted one either already has one, or is waiting for one to become available to purchase. If the ban fails then all the paranoia purchases will disappear. They'd better make hay while the sun is shining.

Add to that a flooded market of "used" black guns when all of the panic buyers get their credit card bills next month, or simply need money for something more important. Once the threat of a ban is gone there will be ARs everywhere and values will drop drastically.

[Nate7667]

We all see or have heard that most wholesalers have stopped taking orders. Same with manufactures, just stopped taking orders.
It a crazy game right now.....
Call Noveske and get a msg to call a dealer, no orders being taken.
Dealers are told to call a wholesale distributor
Wholesale distributors, if they even answer their phone, wont take an order. If you are looking for a specific model, call next week and check...and again the week after.

After talking with a half dozen manufactures at SHOT, big and small, its the same story with AR parts or whole weapons. Roughly 8 months until current back orders are filled. Then 10-12 until they have stuff generally "available" like any other normal year.

[Gun]

Inventory vs Production...
I have no idea of the authenticity of the following....simply found it online and it "sounds" like the author might know what he's talking about.



MAGPUL is behind 1 MILLION mags, do not expect any large quanties of magpul anytime soon.

From;

http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=121738

read post #8, and #10.

The only pmags I've seen offered on the net, and in stock at this moment, are these

http://www.riflegear.com/p-673-magpu...-223556mm.aspx

at twice the normal retail.