Mental health and firearms...

[NineseveN]

The sheriff has no way of knowing about this unless the applicant comes out and tells him about it, and they are under NO obligation to do so.

I can't share specifics, but yes, a Sheriff can indeed find this info out during the investigation. They can ask the applicant. They can ask the person's references (and they have) a leading question. They can contact anyone they feel is relevant to their investigation (employers, neighbors, friends, whomever) and if they find something, it's up to the applicant to take it to court to appeal the denial.

Does it happen often? I honestly don't think so. Is it likely to happen? No. Is it a valid reason to not apply? No.


There's a difference between the way the law is read and the way it is applied and practiced.

[Azzy]

Thanks everyone, I'll pass on the info and concerns

[skyjerk]

I can't share specifics, but yes, a Sheriff can indeed find this info out during the investigation. They can ask the applicant. They can ask the person's references (and they have) a leading question. They can contact anyone they feel is relevant to their investigation (employers, neighbors, friends, whomever) and if they find something, it's up to the applicant to take it to court to appeal the denial.

Does it happen often? I honestly don't think so. Is it likely to happen? No. Is it a valid reason to not apply? No.


There's a difference between the way the law is read and the way it is applied and practiced.

My point is that these things are not a matter of public record.
One would be wise to NOT volunteer unnecessary information
and to choose your references wisely.

[NineseveN]

My point is that these things are not a matter of public record.
One would be wise to NOT volunteer unnecessary information
and to choose your references wisely.

You're absolutely correct...and a lot of the danger depends on what county you're in. Some Sheriffs call employers to let them know that the guy working for them is applying for a carry permit. It's a shame, but it happens.

[wboggs]

I have long hair and a window sticker that says driver only carries $20 worth of ammo. That could get me denied in some counties.

Are you serious? Maybe I should scrape the stickers off my entry doors...
http://www.stickergiant.com/Life-aft...h_xrg2906.html

[38SnubFan]

Are you serious? Maybe I should scrape the stickers off my entry doors...
http://www.stickergiant.com/Life-aft...h_xrg2906.html

Something tells me I'm about to spend some money on stickers! LOL.

-38SnubFan

[Chazman321]

I thought I saw the Chaz symbol go up, but I see the question has been answered... lol


Chazmentalhealthguruman321

[God's Country]

Are you serious? Maybe I should scrape the stickers off my entry doors...
http://www.stickergiant.com/Life-aft...h_xrg2906.html

It was a joke with a point. The point being that the denial with regard to a persons character is potentially open to the bias opinion of the issuing authority, and not the applicants true nature.

[Jackal]

Interesting. But what precisely constitutes an involuntary admission? And what exactly is a 302?

Say, what if the VA tech guy was at the school psychologist, and he mentioned something about suicide. Fearing for his safety, she feels obliged to call an ambulance and have him sent to the hospital for observation. Would this have been an involuntary admission? Wouldn't you have to sign a waiver when you get there saying you want to be admitted?

Aside from that scenario, who exactly has the ability to involuntarily admit someone? And why then would that admission be construed as involuntary?

[NineseveN]

It's all in the Mental Health Procedures Act found in Title 50, 7100 section of the PA Code:

Here:http://www.psychlaws.org/LegalResour...niastatute.htm

Or here: http://members.aol.com/DKM1/50.Cp.14.html