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    One of our biggest enemies in the fight for the preservation of our rights is the state controlled media. They shape the topic of the day and manipulate the minds of the youth as well as the uninformed cool aid drinking libtards.

    How do we fight them? We would gain much ground if we could hold them accountable. Any ideas ???
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    Quote Originally Posted by K.C. View Post
    One of our biggest enemies in the fight for the preservation's of our rights is the state controlled media. They shape the topic of the day and manipulate the minds of the youth as well as the uninformed cool aid drinking libtards.

    How do we fight them? We would gain much ground if we could hold them accountable. Any ideas ???
    First you find out who they are..


    Then you point it out to other people....


    People accuse you of being an Anti-Semite for pointing it out...


    You get discouraged that people refuse to see the truth...


    You argue the facts to them, they respond by name calling, accusations, Bible verses, and Holocaust references...The way the media taught them to respond to such issues.


    And the propaganda machine continues on unaffected...


    Pretty gloomy huh?


    Once you recognize propaganda for what it truly is, the world around you looks like the set of a B Movie..


    Glad I could help..
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    Quote Originally Posted by FAL-SHOOTER View Post
    First you find out who they are..


    Then you point it out to other people....


    People accuse you of being an Anti-Semite for pointing it out...


    You get discouraged that people refuse to see the truth...


    You argue the facts to them, they respond by name calling, accusations, Bible verses, and Holocaust references...The way the media taught them to respond to such issues.


    And the propaganda machine continues on unaffected...


    Pretty gloomy huh?


    Once you recognize propaganda for what it truly is, the world around you looks like the set of a B Movie..


    Glad I could help..
    Yes, a very large percentage of Jews are liberal freaks, and it is obviously true that they have disproportionate representation in the MSM, Hollywood, politics, etc., and it is also true that a huge percentage of the big names calling for gun control lately belong to Jews (Feinstein, Bloomberg, Schumer, etc.). However, what do you think about non-liberal Jews, particularly libertarian ones who express great support for the Second Amendment, like John Stossel?
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    Quote Originally Posted by minarchist View Post
    Yes, a very large percentage of Jews are liberal freaks, and it is obviously true that they have disproportionate representation in the MSM, Hollywood, politics, etc. However, what do you think about non-liberal Jews, particularly libertarian ones who express great support for the Second Amendment, like John Stossel?
    Good question..

    Personally I sympathize with Jews that get lumped into the same category as those that have a destructive agenda...

    My problem is, I never see the ones like Stossel using there position to call attention to it either..

    Norman Finklestein wrote an excellent book on the subject called 'The Holocaust Industry' his parents were Holocaust survivors and he calls attention to the issues involved..
    You can only draw so many lines in the sand before you are backed into a corner...

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    I would say point out the lies as often as possible. Early last week I saw an AP article in the local paper that stated one could walk into any gun store and buy a machine gun without a background check. I made it my mission to point out the article to everyone around and make sure they knew the truth. Some of the ones that are hardcore gun owners didn't know the process, and didn't know that what the article said was untrue because they never tried to buy a machine gun.

    You would think most would deduce the fact about how wrong it is, because why would you need a check for a rifle or handgun, and not one for a machine gun? Problem is that these lies have been shoved down our throats for so long that many can't seperate facts from BS anymore. In fact, that's how you destroy someone's bullshit filter, make sure almost everything they are told is a lie. It becomes so tedious to figure out the truth that most just don't bother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FAL-SHOOTER View Post
    First you find out who they are..


    Then you point it out to other people....


    People accuse you of being an Anti-Semite for pointing it out...


    You get discouraged that people refuse to see the truth...


    You argue the facts to them, they respond by name calling, accusations, Bible verses, and Holocaust references...The way the media taught them to respond to such issues.


    And the propaganda machine continues on unaffected...


    Pretty gloomy huh?


    Once you recognize propaganda for what it truly is, the world around you looks like the set of a B Movie..


    Glad I could help..
    I'd guess that most of the influential people in the US who are supporting "gun control" are Protestants. Protestants as a group are the single largest religious group in the US. It's only logical to assume that the more mainstream of these groups supports gun control.

    In fact just taking a look at the Presbyterian, Methodist and Lutheran Churches one can readily see that their national groups embrace gun control.

    http://www.presbyterianmission.org/m...1/gun-control/

    http://archives.umc.org/interior.asp?ptid=1&mid=937

    http://www.elca.org/What-We-Believe/...-Control.aspx\

    http://www.faithsagainstgunviolence.org/


    The reason for this is not hard to understand - Progressives gravitate to power and influence. So they rise to the top of these organizations. They then speak to one another, encourage one another and vote accordingly.

    Progressives also have hijacked our educational institutions including some seminaries. The results follow.

    Part of the reason that these "mainstream denominations" are slowly fading in population is because they have turned from Jesus and the Scriptures and towards "Social Justice". Social Justice is such an elastic term while the Word and Scripture are eternal and give one a good foundation.

    Jews are a very tiny minority in the US. About four million people per Wiki. I am not clear if this population includes observant and what I call "cultural Jews" Still, if four million people are able to push around a group eighty times their size then they must have amazing mental powers.

    More so if they can influence mainstream Protestant organizations to embrace gun control.

    I'm always happy to hear facts. Speculation is also welcome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by minarchist View Post
    Yes, a very large percentage of Jews are liberal freaks, and it is obviously true that they have disproportionate representation in the MSM, Hollywood, politics, etc., and it is also true that a huge percentage of the big names calling for gun control lately belong to Jews (Feinstein, Bloomberg, Schumer, etc.). However, what do you think about non-liberal Jews, particularly libertarian ones who express great support for the Second Amendment, like John Stossel?

    There is also this group...

    www.jpfo.org

    They're composed mostly of observant Jews who keep to the Laws. They consider self defense a religious obligation.

    It is hazardous to lump an entire people together into one group with one common objective. Jews have as many opinions are there are Jews, like any other group of people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneCC View Post
    There is also this group...

    www.jpfo.org

    They're composed mostly of observant Jews who keep to the Laws. They consider self defense a religious obligation.

    It is hazardous to lump an entire people together into one group with one common objective. Jews have as many opinions are there are Jews, like any other group of people.
    Strange, by looking at there site they are more interested in pushing the same old "nazis took the guns" diatribe.. A claim that anyone with 10 minutes of Google time can dismiss...

    So why have they been repeating this lie for the last 20 years?
    You can only draw so many lines in the sand before you are backed into a corner...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneCC View Post
    I'd guess that most of the influential people in the US who are supporting "gun control" are Protestants. Protestants as a group are the single largest religious group in the US. It's only logical to assume that the more mainstream of these groups supports gun control.

    In fact just taking a look at the Presbyterian, Methodist and Lutheran Churches one can readily see that their national groups embrace gun control.

    http://www.presbyterianmission.org/m...1/gun-control/

    http://archives.umc.org/interior.asp?ptid=1&mid=937

    http://www.elca.org/What-We-Believe/...-Control.aspx\

    http://www.faithsagainstgunviolence.org/


    The reason for this is not hard to understand - Progressives gravitate to power and influence. So they rise to the top of these organizations. They then speak to one another, encourage one another and vote accordingly.

    Progressives also have hijacked our educational institutions including some seminaries. The results follow.

    Part of the reason that these "mainstream denominations" are slowly fading in population is because they have turned from Jesus and the Scriptures and towards "Social Justice". Social Justice is such an elastic term while the Word and Scripture are eternal and give one a good foundation.

    Jews are a very tiny minority in the US. About four million people per Wiki. I am not clear if this population includes observant and what I call "cultural Jews" Still, if four million people are able to push around a group eighty times their size then they must have amazing mental powers.

    More so if they can influence mainstream Protestant organizations to embrace gun control.

    I'm always happy to hear facts. Speculation is also welcome.
    For the population of Protestants in the US that number is a fraction of a fraction..


    Here's a list for you of anti-gun groups...All with Jewish leadership.. Now remember 4.8 million Jews versus 80-100 million Protestants,Presbyterian, Methodist and Lutherans....











    AFL-CIO
    Ambulatory Pediatric Association
    American Academy of Pediatrics
    American Civil Liberties Union
    American Academy of Ambulatory Care Nursing
    American Medical Women`s Association
    American Medical Student Association
    American Medical Association
    American Association for the Surgery of Trauma
    American Trauma Society
    American Federation of Teachers
    American Association of School Administrators
    American Alliance for Rights and Responsibilities
    American Medical Association
    American Bar Association
    American Counseling Association
    American Academy of Child & Adolescent Psychiatry
    American Academy of Pediatrics
    American Association for World Health
    American Ethical Union
    American Nurses Association
    American Association of Neurological Surgeons
    American Association of Family and Consumer Sciences
    American Firearms Association
    American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry
    American Jewish Committee
    American Trauma Society
    American Psychological Association
    American Jewish Congress
    American Public Health Association
    Americans for Democratic Action
    Anti-Defamation League
    Black Mental Health Alliance
    B`nai B`rith
    Central Conference of American Rabbis
    Children`s Defense Fund
    Coalition for Peace Action
    Coalition to Stop Gun Violence
    College Democrats of America
    Committee for the Study of Handgun Misuse & World Peace
    Common Cause
    Congress of Neurological Surgeons
    Consumer Federation of America
    Council of the Great City Schools
    Council of Chief State School Officers
    Dehere Foundation
    Disarm Educational Fund
    Environmental Action Foundation
    Episcopal Church-Washington Office
    Florence and John Shumann Foundation
    Friends Committee on National Legislation
    General Federation of Women`s Clubs
    George Gund Fun
    Gray Panthers
    H.M. Strong Foundation
    Hadassah
    Harris Foundation
    Hechinger Foundation
    Interfaith Neighbors
    Int`l Ladies` Garment Workers` Union
    Int`l Association of Educators for World Peace
    Jewish Labor Committee
    Joyce Foundation
    Lauder Foundation
    Lawrence Foundation
    League of Women Voters of the United States*
    Lutheran Office for Governmental Affairs, Evangelical Lutheran Church in America
    Manhattan Project II
    Mennonite Central Committee-Washington Office
    National Safe Kids Campaign
    National Association of Police Organizations
    National Coalition Against Domestic Violence
    National Association of Chain Drug Stores
    National Network for Youth
    National Assembly of National Voluntary Health & Social Welfare Organizations
    National Association for the Advancement of Colored People
    National Association of School Psychologists
    National Association of Counties*
    National Association of Pediatric Nurse Associates & Practitioners
    National Association of School Safety and Law Enforcement Officers
    National Education Association
    National Association of Elementary School Principals
    National Association of Public Hospitals
    National Coalition Against Domestic Violence
    National Association of Secondary School Principals
    National Association of Social Workers
    National Association of Children`s Hospitals and Related Institutions
    National Association of School Psychologists
    National Center to Rehabilitate Violent Youth
    National Commission for Economic Conversion & Disarmament
    National Association of Community Health Centers
    National People`s Action
    National Education Association*
    National League of Cities
    National Council on Family Relations
    National Council of Jewish Women
    National Organization for Women
    National Parks and Conservation Association
    National Peace Foundation
    National Urban League, Inc.
    National Parent, Teachers Association*
    National Urban Coalition
    National SAFE KIDS Campaign
    National Organization on Disability
    National Spinal Cord Injury Association
    Ortenberg Foundation
    Peace Action
    People for the American Way
    Physicians for Social Responsibility
    Police Foundation
    Project on Demilitarization and Democracy
    Public Citizen
    SaferWorld
    Society of Critical Care Medicine
    Southern Christian Leadership Conference
    The Council of the Great City Schools
    The Synergetic Society
    20/20 Vision
    Union of American Hebrew Congregations
    Unitarian Universalist Association
    United States Conference of Mayors
    War and Peace Foundation
    Women Strike for Peace
    Women`s National Democratic Club
    Women`s Action for New Directions (WAND)
    Women`s Int`l League for Peace and Freedom
    World Spiritual Assembly, Inc.



    you were saying....
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    quote:Jews are a very tiny minority in the US. About four million people per Wiki. I am not clear if this population includes observant and what I call "cultural Jews" Still, if four million people are able to push around a group eighty times their size then they must have amazing mental powers:quote


    No mental powers are needed, when you control all areas of news and entertainment, you decide the issues and the response to the issues, you control elections by controlling the public image of politicians and you in turn render true democracy meaningless and impossible..

    No cigar smoke filled backrooms or Synagogues with basements full of gold, just racial solidarity and the common goal....


    Control...


    It's actually quite simple..
    Last edited by FAL-SHOOTER; January 22nd, 2013 at 02:42 AM.
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