Employer property ban

[mikes17038]

My employer has just instituted a new policy. No guns allowed on property. That is to include the parking lot.
Now, I have a carry permit.
I leave my weapon in a locked vehicle and out of sight. In a safe to be exact.
I have searched the web for any hints on how Pennsylvania stands on this matter and I can not find anything.
Does anyone have any input on this?
I sure do not want to be left without a weapon for the majority of my drive time to and from work, nor not have it for all the extra curricular activities after work.
I just feel this policy inhibits me from being able to protect myself as allowed by law.
I know they can not search my vehicle without a warrant or police present.
I am concerned for it is no secret that I have carried for more years than most of the policy makers have been breathing.
Thanks for all of your help.

[4tun8]

It's company policy (private property). You can choose to ignore it, but if your caught and fired for it, you won't have any defense to keep your job.

[brsims]

Sounds to me like either 1) you unfortunately work for an anti-gun advocate or 2) you employer is afraid of possible consequences of letting the peasants...I mean employees...have weapons in close proximity to the employer.

As you've said, he can't search your car without a warrant, although I've worked for employers in the past who claimed they could. Keep your weapon secured in your vehicle as you have in the past, and piss on them.

And for my former employers who claimed they had rights to my vehicle? I informed them that my car was locked. The only way they were getting into it was by breaking in, and I would own their business and their ass if they took that route. Thankfully, I was not trapped at those jobs for long.

[mikes17038]

I was afraid of that.
Well. I will just keep my mouth very shut.
Take off my MTAC every day and hope the police do not come in asking me to open my vehicle, but I think I must break some kind of law?

[brsims]

I have personally never seen the police waste the time to do a car search on private property at an employer's request. I believe there does indeed need to be a crime, or the reasonable suspicion of criminal activity before the police are willing to get involved. Your experiences may vary, depending upon the corruption level of local police and how much political "pull" your employer has.

[mikes17038]

brsims, best advice .... EVER.
We recently had someone suicide on our property.
Dime to a dollar that incident sparked this policy ... liability.

[mikes17038]

I am fortunate that the police within that area are not Philly cops. These are guys who served and know what rights are,
As for the employer, The relations with the local enforcement officials is less than ideal for them.
I will be nervous, but I should be good as long as I stay discreet ... I hope.
I am considering a letter to Pat Toomey. He is friendly towards the second and individual rights,

[brsims]

brsims, best advice .... EVER.
We recently had someone suicide on our property.
Dime to a dollar that incident sparked this policy ... liability.

Just bear in mind that all my advice should be taken with a hefty grain of salt. My experiences with law enforcement in various areas of our country have possibly left a somewhat negative impression upon me.

Further, I have little to no patience with suicidal personalities, and see no reason to punish others due to the actions of the few. Nor do I understand the drive amongst some to end their suffering in a public location.

[Kurt_D]

There is always the possibility that the employer can make allowing a requested search of an employee's vehicle a condition of employment. i.e. If you refuse to allow them to search it, you could be fired. Whether you'd have recourse if it ever occurred, I do not know but an attorney should.

This has been discussed here before but I don't have the links handy.

[internet troll]

If you want to look over a past discussion on this issue, here is one.

http://forum.pafoa.org/concealed-ope...rking-lot.html