Just started reloading for the .40 S&W, i have 3 powders on hand, HP38, Tightgroup, and blue dot and i am using a 180 grain lead flat point. Does anyone have any recipes for this, i tried 4.3 grains with HP38, 4 with titegroup and 7 with blue dot with an AOL of 1.13 on all of them and they were all shooting about 2" low at 10 yards, the blue dot was the worst, that was all over the place. I hate to go any hotter with them, i used no taper crimp, just a straight bullet seat and then a Lee factory crimp die.

Also, i am doing 38 special and 357 for the first time too, i have the 38 special pretty good with a 148 grain dewc and 3.7 grains of hp38, just want to see what everyone else using for those, i am open to trying new bullet weights and powders.

I use federal primers for everything as long as i can find them