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    Default Re: NRA Has Embraced Harry Reid - What Are They Going to Do When He Allows Gun Contro

    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan View Post
    The Dems got Obama care pushed through !
    They are MUCH better at enforcing party discipline than the Repubs from what I've seen at Fed and State level when it comes to the big stuff.
    At least better than Repubs,but,that ain't saying much ............
    That only happened because they had a majority in both Congressional bodies. The Republicans were equally disciplined for all Obamacare votes.

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    Default Re: NRA Has Embraced Harry Reid - What Are They Going to Do When He Allows Gun Contro

    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan View Post
    "If our beloved President Obama broke wind,little igpjap would be there to savour the aroma and tell us all how nice it smells !"
    This type of comment does nothing but provoke an argument. Please refrain.

    Quote Originally Posted by IGPJAP View Post
    Obama knows an AWB can't make it through the house, and Mitch & Co. can obstruct anything in the Senate. Obama is spouting all this AWB stuff to appease the base.

    Obama actually signed legislation that strengthened our right to carry. If he was really such an anti, he would have never done it. If Feinstein or Schumer were POTUS, they would have never signed the bill that Obama did which strengthened our right to carry.
    In light of recent events, as well as the "signaling" from the White House that we need to "do something" about guns, IMHO you're mistaken if you think Congress won't try to get the support for either an AWB or a mis-named "high capacity magazine" ban. You're even more mistaken if you think Obama won't sign it. He sure as hell won't veto it.
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    Default Re: NRA Has Embraced Harry Reid - What Are They Going to Do When He Allows Gun Contro

    Quote Originally Posted by ChamberedRound View Post
    This type of comment does nothing but provoke an argument. Please refrain.



    In light of recent events, as well as the "signaling" from the White House that we need to "do something" about guns, IMHO you're mistaken if you think Congress won't try to get the support for either an AWB or a mis-named "high capacity magazine" ban. You're even more mistaken if you think Obama won't sign it. He sure as hell won't veto it.
    Obama isn't stupid though. He's not the first politician who has taken a position solely to appease voters. Harry Reid did it with national reciprocity. Obama knows it will be an uphill battle to get anything through the house and McConnell can obstruct business in the Senate, something not foreign to him the last couple of years.

    Obama is under a great deal of pressure from his supporters to "do something" about guns. He can't sit by in silence. He can talk the talk knowing full well that the chances of something ever getting to his desk are very slim. He can then throw up his hands and say "we tried but the Republicans thwarted our efforts."

    If he was truly as anti as people on this board make him out to be, why total silence during his first term with regards to guns? In fact the only gun related item that showed up actually strengthened our right to carry and he signed it!

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