Breaking News - 18-21 year olds in PA can obtain an LTCF

[JoshIronshaft]

Well, I meant to post this in the PA gun laws forum.

Details here:

https://blog.princelaw.com/2024/04/2...nses-to-carry/

Today, Chief Counsel Joshua Prince of the Firearms Industry Consulting Group, was successful in securing a monumental permanent injunction against the Pennsylvania State Police in Lara, et al. v. PSP Commissioner, 2:20-cv-1582. The injunction precludes the Pennsylvania State Police from (1) arresting individuals between the age of 18 and 21 who openly carry firearms during a state of emergency; (2) denying applicants for a license to carry firearms merely because they are between the ages of 18 and 21; and, (3) from enforcing our draconian transportation laws (Section 6106) and state of emergency provision (Section 6107) against individuals between the ages of 18 and 21; which, as the Order specifies; thereby, allows them to *carry[] loaded, operable firearms, including handguns, on their person, in public and in their vehicles, for all purposes including self-defense.*

So what does this mean? Unless and until the permanent injunction is stayed or overturned, 18 to 20 year olds have more rights and protections in Pennsylvania than those of us 21 and older. Specifically, an 18 to 21 year old can now carry a loaded firearm on their person or in a vehicle, without being required to obtain a license to carry firearms! Of course, as this could change quickly, it would be wise for any person between 18 and 20 years of age to apply for and obtain his/her license to carry.

[JaySmith]

But can they purchase a handgun?

[wew3]

But can they purchase a handgun?

Yes, but they need to go through a sheriff, not an FFL. Good luck finding one.

6111. Sale or transfer of firearms.

(c) Duty of other persons.--Any person who is not a licensed importer, manufacturer or dealer and who desires to sell or transfer a firearm to another unlicensed person shall do so only upon the place of business of a licensed importer, manufacturer, dealer or county sheriff's office, the latter of whom shall follow the procedure set forth in this section as if he were the seller of the firearm. The provisions of this section shall not apply to transfers between spouses or to transfers between a parent and child or to transfers between grandparent and grandchild.

https://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs...&div=0&chpt=61

[Curmudgeon]

Can they not receive one from a parent, grandparent, or spouse?

[JDA58]

polymer 80

[wew3]

Can they not receive one from a parent, grandparent, or spouse?

Yes, but the question was about purchasing one.

[Curmudgeon]

Yes, but the question was about purchasing one.

And it was already answered so I offered an alternative.

[ar15jules]

This is interesting. I will be keeping my eye on this one. I am wondering if this information will be forwarded by PA State Police Counsel to the Sheriff's Offices.

[knight0334]

That is a nice win! It may end up being short-lived, but still nice.

[Curmudgeon]

This is interesting. I will be keeping my eye on this one. I am wondering if this information will be forwarded by PA State Police Counsel to the Sheriff's Offices.

I don't think we will know, and I have my doubts that it will happen properly,
until an 18-year old, with paper citations, goes to get a PA LTCF.

Probably a good idea for such an individual to have support from the community,
as well as possible legal and financial backing ready in the wings in the event
of any "speed bumps" along the way. Up to and including filing legal actions for
relief.