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**Emptymag** · February 21st, 2020, 08:52 PM

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LE TRADE-IN FN FNS 9MM PISTOL
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**Emptymag** · February 21st, 2020, 08:59 PM

Originally Posted by HKusp 45

I'm going to have to physically get my hands on the MSR only because it looks ... looks more cheaply made that the romeo 5 and I love my romeo 5

The only thing I really am not crazy about on the MSR is the exposed adjustment knobs.

I DO prefer the "shake awake" of the Romeo 5.

I DO prefer the included flip up SEE THRU lens caps of the MSR

I go back and forth between wanting push buttons which are easier and knobs which are (in my mind) more reliable.

**HKusp 45** · February 21st, 2020, 10:42 PM

Originally Posted by Emptymag

The only thing I really am not crazy about on the MSR is the exposed adjustment knobs.

I DO prefer the "shake awake" of the Romeo 5.

I DO prefer the included flip up SEE THRU lens caps of the MSR

I go back and forth between wanting push buttons which are easier and knobs which are (in my mind) more reliable.

so far the romeo buttons have held up nd with shake awake your not really putting to much on them anyway .

**HKusp 45** · February 22nd, 2020, 12:48 PM

Bushnell has a 29% mail in (or online ) rebate

Buy a qualifying PRIME, NITRO, FORGE, ENGAGE or AR OPTICS product and get 29% back on your retail purchase. (oh and free shipping)

They have some great pricing for some decent budget scope options on clearance on their site. Picking up one for my .22 takedown

Like to rebate
https://promotions.vistaoutdoor.com/EN/US/Home/Brand/17

Link to bushnell
https://www.bushnell.com/

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**Boondox** · February 22nd, 2020, 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by HKusp 45

Bushnell has a 29% mail in (or online ) rebate

Buy a qualifying PRIME, NITRO, FORGE, ENGAGE or AR OPTICS product and get 29% back on your retail purchase. (oh and free shipping)

They have some great pricing for some decent budget scope options on clearance on their site. Picking up one for my .22 takedown

Like to rebate
https://promotions.vistaoutdoor.com/EN/US/Home/Brand/17

Link to bushnell
https://www.bushnell.com/

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Kool , thanks for this

**Emptymag** · February 24th, 2020, 02:14 PM

**alpacaheat** · February 24th, 2020, 02:58 PM

How would you compare this Anderson upper to a a similarly-priced PSA upper?

https://www.primaryarms.com/anderson...ight-post-16_2

**jthrelf** · February 24th, 2020, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by alpacaheat

How would you compare this Anderson upper to a a similarly-priced PSA upper?

https://www.primaryarms.com/anderson...ight-post-16_2

Probably very similarly. Both have a lifetime warranty, both 4150 nitrided barrel steel, both usually MPI but not HPT tested bolt carrier groups. PSA is 1:7 twist which is Milspec, but versus 1:8 there's very little practical difference. You may see instability with 77gr projectiles, but still likely not.

One thing I'd suggest is to perhaps get a similar style midlength upper. More handguard length, smoother operation for faster follow up shots and less wear on internals. Midlength is the ideal gas system for 16" barrels as carbine length was really designs for 14.5" barreled M4s.

https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-...cg-and-ch.html

I'd look at this too. It lists a 9130 bolt which will probably be fine, but the spec isn't as good as carpenter 158. The Anderson doesn't list a spec for the bolt so it's probably 9130 too. However, I know PSA often just gives you a 158 bolt even when the listing is for 9310, but that's a bit of luck.

Edit - this one guarantees you a 158 bolt, and you get the magpul handguard and rear sight for a few bucks more:
https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-...165458948.html

**Emptymag** · February 24th, 2020, 03:51 PM

Yeah, between the two, unless I was set on one twist rate over the other, I'd just buy the one that costs less shipped.

PSA twist 1:7
Poverty Pony 1:8

BCG is phosphate (standard) on both

PSA BOLT Carpenter 158 steel
Poverty Pony BOLT 9310 steel

Aside from that, I am also not seeing much difference.

If you just want to stick to a BASIC M4 style, flip a coin.

The other one mentioned by jthrelf is a good choice too and a great value.
Add up the cost of the Magpul hand guard and rear BUIS that are included and factor in the more desirable mid length gas system, and that's the one I would choose.
I can't say that the mid length barrel on my wife's lightweight is THE reason it shoots so soft because I do have other parts on it that contribute to that as well, but my 7,62x39 barrel is a midlength as well, and it's a nice shooter too.

If you find you don't like the Magpul hand guard, sell it (everyone loves Magpul) and buy another type of drop in hand guard.
UTG Pro (?) has some nice 2-piece units that have the appearance of a tubular free float hand guard that will work with a gun with a front sight gas block like that.

To clarify, THIS is the one I would choose.

EDIT: of the 2 mid lengths, I'd go with the Magpul furniture.
M4 style hand guards in mid length look dorky - but more practically, they don't offer any mounting options that the Magpul furniture allows.

**Emptymag** · February 24th, 2020, 04:09 PM

Back in stock.

If you already HAVE a standard buffer tube lying around, this is bout the best way to get an SBA3 for less.

SB Tactical SBA3 Pistol Stabilizing Brace (No Tube)- Black
only 74.99!!!