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**Delkal** · January 17th, 2018, 07:25 PM

9mm is one of the few cartridges you can argue is not worth reloading. I cast my own bullets (taking even more time) and I can reload for 6 cents a round. But even then it is difficult to work up a good load that doesn't lead badly. I do it anyway but always wonder if I am wasting my time. A 45 is another story, same 6-7 cents a round and full power loads are easy and accurate.

When you get to a 45 Colt load its a no brainer. About 7-8 cents for a cast cowboy load that would cost you a dollar. About 15 cents for a heavy cast load that can equal or exceed Buffalo bore at $2 a shot.

**P89** · January 17th, 2018, 11:39 PM

80% with the jig, I was looking at something else but saw this.

https://www.brownells.com/rifle-part...prod96905.aspx

**fallenleader** · January 17th, 2018, 11:42 PM

Originally Posted by P89

80% poly with the jig & lower parts kit, I was looking at something else but saw this.

https://www.brownells.com/rifle-part...prod96905.aspx

just to ensure no one misses it.

**varano14** · January 18th, 2018, 12:05 AM

Originally Posted by fallenleader

just to ensure no one misses it.

What other parts are required for this other then the complete upper. Buffer tube? Stock? Never built an AR but have been contiplating it. Sorry if this should be asked here feel free to pm if responding in this thread would be inappropriate

**fallenleader** · January 18th, 2018, 12:29 AM

Originally Posted by varano14

What other parts are required for this other then the complete upper. Buffer tube? Stock? Never built an AR but have been contiplating it. Sorry if this should be asked here feel free to pm if responding in this thread would be inappropriate

after the reloading and other derailments im sure it's fine. (insert obligatory "search the forum" comment here) but i'd start with an aluminum lower or at least a poly with a brass or otherwise metal buffer tube thread.
buffer tube and springs, completed upper and stock, arm brace or sponge to cover tube.
drill and magazine, ammo. and im sure someone who has completed a build will chime in with more.
i'm waiting on parts for a pistol build and i only know what i've memorized from charts, instructions, manuals including TM-9-1005-249-10 (iirc) and studying my carbine.

on the other hand, has anyone had first hand experience with a broken poly lower? i have a hatred of plastic threads on anything.

**P89** · January 18th, 2018, 08:38 AM

Originally Posted by fallenleader

on the other hand, has anyone had first hand experience with a broken poly lower? i have a hatred of plastic threads on anything.

Let's hope that since they've been around awhile that any weakness in the design has been revised.
I search "broken poly lower" and only came up with a few examples of failure.
I guess I'll find out soon enough because I couldn't help but add it to my cart last night.

**ianb1116** · January 18th, 2018, 10:04 AM

http://palmettostatearmory.com/magpu...ag571-blk.html

Magpul PMAGS $7.99/per.

Says free shipping on 10+ but I added one to my cart and it came up as free. Good deal.

**Berncly** · January 18th, 2018, 11:55 AM

https://grabagun.com/dpms-panther-or...=Daily%20Email

DPMS Panther Oracle Black .223 5.56 NATO 16-inch 30rd 389 2018-1-18.JPG

**Gunowner99** · January 18th, 2018, 11:56 AM

My God! Remember 5 years ago when an ORC went for $700 or so?

**sota** · January 18th, 2018, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by ianb1116

http://palmettostatearmory.com/magpu...ag571-blk.html

Magpul PMAGS $7.99/per.

Says free shipping on 10+ but I added one to my cart and it came up as free. Good deal.

by july they'll be free.