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**Emptymag** · May 17th, 2017, 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by Palerider

Tanners Sports Center in Jamison has new DPMS Oracle .308 for $599 after $75 rebate.

Not that I can afford one any time soon, but that price makes me happy.
Really want a semi auto .308 - those prices make it possible.

**Palerider** · May 17th, 2017, 08:50 PM

Originally Posted by Emptymag

Not that I can afford one any time soon, but that price makes me happy.
Really want a semi auto .308 - those prices make it possible.

Absolutely. And pure icing on the cake would be if ammo came down similarly in price.

**halfast** · May 17th, 2017, 10:00 PM

Please accept my apology on the D*&$'S mention. Just to show you how out of it i am, I wasn't aware of any of that. Duh. Thanks for pointing out my misstep. I need to spend more time on the forum. I DID the google as suggested.

Now, EDUCATED. tx.

**39flathead** · May 17th, 2017, 10:08 PM

Originally Posted by Emptymag

Not that I can afford one any time soon, but that price makes me happy.
Really want a semi auto .308 - those prices make it possible.

Palmetto has been running their complete blem lower for $199.
Complete uppers for $449.

**waiting2burn** · May 18th, 2017, 01:30 AM

If you don't have an AR the days of salad are upon thee.

Was going to post the PSA S&W Sport deal.

Also sorry if it was posted I'm Sorry I'm on mobile and it's crap but Grab a Gun has Del Ton Echo Lites for $379 plus shipping/transfer

http://grabagun.com/del-ton-echo-316...inch-30rd.html

**unclejumbo** · May 18th, 2017, 12:35 PM

Brownells

Enter M6K for free shipping, today only with no minimum. Works on ammo.

As you shop, there is another code that will show up...L9Q (I think) that includes the free shipping and $30 off $300. I was just under the threshold and got an extra box of .300 Blackout for free by throwing it in the cart.

Some reasonable prices on some of the sale ammo.

**fallenleader** · May 18th, 2017, 09:09 PM

Originally Posted by halfast

Please accept my apology on the D*&$'S mention. Just to show you how out of it i am, I wasn't aware of any of that. Duh. Thanks for pointing out my misstep. I need to spend more time on the forum. I DID the google as suggested.

Now, EDUCATED. tx.

i hope my weak explanation on terminology wasn't too confusing. google does have it's methods of really narrowing to the desired results though and site: is one of them.

https://www.aimsurplus.com/product.a...+Box&groupid=6
Hornady 9mm XTP 147grn HP 25rd Box
$14.95 or 10 or more $13.95
i know critical defense 115grn and critical duty ?124grn?(non +p) normally LGS retail for about $20/box of qty 25.
not sure if this is really a deal for online though.

**Berncly** · May 18th, 2017, 10:57 PM

Am I missing something here?
The only difference between the 2 rifles for $42.18 more is a front post and carry handle?
But they are exactly the same rifle, same receiver, same barrel, same quality?
Could use a second pair of eyes on this before I drop the cash.

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DPMS Panther AP4 Carbine 556X45 16 inch http://grabagun.com/dpms-panther-ap4...556x45-16.html
$556.18
-$150.00 Mail in rebate https://dpms.rebateaccess.com/promotion.php?p=74841
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$406.18 Total

DPMS PANTHER AP4 CARBINE, AR-15, Semi-automatic, 223 Rem/556NATO, 16" M4 Barrel, Bayonet Lug, Birdcage Brake, Matte Black Finish, 30Rd, 1 Magazine, Cleaning Kit, Sling RFA2AP4A

Semi-auto gas-operated rotating bolt. A3 flattop receiver w/detachable carry handle. W/E adjustable rear sight& A2 front sight assembly. Dust cover. Shell deflector. Round forward assist. RH ejection. Aluminum trigger guard & magazine release button. AP4 6-position telescoping fiber-reinforced polymer stock. GlacierGuards handguard. A2 flash hider (birdcage). Chrome-moly steel contour barrel. Upper/lower receivers: MilSpec hard-coat anodized & black Teflon- coated. Includes: one 30 rnd. mag & nylon web sling

NOTE: AS OF FEBRUARY 1 2011 FACTORY NO LONGER SHIPS CLEANING KITS WITH RIFLES.

NOTE: AS OF JANUARY 21 2013 FACTORY WILL ONLY SHIP ONE MAGAZINE WITH RIFLE.

DPMS PANTHER AP4 CARBINE, AR-15, Semi-automatic, 223 Rem/556NATO, 16" M4 Barrel, Bayonet Lug, Birdcage Brake, Matte Black Finish, 30Rd, 1 Magazine, Cleaning Kit, Sling RFA2AP4A

SKU GAG_DPRFA2AP4A
UPC 884451000020
Manufacturer Part Number RFA2AP4A
Manufacturer DPMS
Condition New in Box
$556.18

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DPMS Panther Oracle Black .223 / 5.56 NATO 16-inch 30rd http://grabagun.com/dpms-panther-ora...3-16-30rd.html
$439.00
-$75.00 Mail in rebate https://dpms.rebateaccess.com/promotion.php?p=74841
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$364.00 Total

DPMS Oracle Semi-automatic AR 223 Rem 556NATO 16" Black AP4 6 Position Fwd Assist, Dst Cvr 30Rd Flattop RFA3-OC

PANTHER ™ ORACLE • 5.56x54mm • 16 " lite contour barrel • Black finish • Semi-auto, gas-operated rotating bolt • Phosphated 8620 steel bolt carrier, heat treated & plated per Mil. Spec. • Receiver material: (RFA3-OC) 7075-T6 aircraft aluminum alloy upper/lower receiver or (RFLR-OC) 6066-T6 aluminum thick-walled upper receiver & 6061-T6 lower receiver; Al materials are hard coat anodized per Mil. Spec. & Teflon coated black • Upper: A3 Picatinny rail flattop; “ T ” Marked; Dust cover; Shell deflector; Round forward assist; RH ejection • Lower: Aluminum trigger guard & magazine release button • Barrel: 4140 Chrome-moly steel; 6 Grooves - RH; 1:9 Twist (5.56) 1:10 Twist (7.62); A2 Flash hider; Single-rail gas block • Handguard: Carbine length, oval GlacierGuards ™ w/ aluminum delta ring • Pardus stock: (6-Position, telescoping fiber reinforced polymer w/check rest, curved & serrated buttplate, & multip

DPMS Oracle, Semi-automatic, 223 Rem/556NATO, 16" Barrel, Black Finish, AP4 6-Position Stock, 30Rd, Flat Top, Forward Assist, Dust Cover RFA3-OC

SKU GAG_DPRFA3-OC
UPC 884451002383
Manufacturer Part Number RFA3OC
Manufacturer DPMS
Condition New in Box
$439.00

**Emptymag** · May 18th, 2017, 11:02 PM

$430 shipped - with Magpul FDE furniture

Upper
Lower

**Emptymag** · May 18th, 2017, 11:10 PM

Originally Posted by Berncly

Am I missing something here?
The only difference between the 2 rifles for $42.18 more is a front post and carry handle?
But they are exactly the same rifle, same receiver, same barrel, same quality?
Could use a second pair of eyes on this before I drop the cash.

-----------------------

DPMS Panther AP4 Carbine 556X45 16 inch http://grabagun.com/dpms-panther-ap4...556x45-16.html
$556.18
-$150.00 Mail in rebate https://dpms.rebateaccess.com/promotion.php?p=74841
--------
$406.18 Total

DPMS PANTHER AP4 CARBINE, AR-15, Semi-automatic, 223 Rem/556NATO, 16" M4 Barrel, Bayonet Lug, Birdcage Brake, Matte Black Finish, 30Rd, 1 Magazine, Cleaning Kit, Sling RFA2AP4A

Semi-auto gas-operated rotating bolt. A3 flattop receiver w/detachable carry handle. W/E adjustable rear sight& A2 front sight assembly. Dust cover. Shell deflector. Round forward assist. RH ejection. Aluminum trigger guard & magazine release button. AP4 6-position telescoping fiber-reinforced polymer stock. GlacierGuards handguard. A2 flash hider (birdcage). Chrome-moly steel contour barrel. Upper/lower receivers: MilSpec hard-coat anodized & black Teflon- coated. Includes: one 30 rnd. mag & nylon web sling

NOTE: AS OF FEBRUARY 1 2011 FACTORY NO LONGER SHIPS CLEANING KITS WITH RIFLES.

NOTE: AS OF JANUARY 21 2013 FACTORY WILL ONLY SHIP ONE MAGAZINE WITH RIFLE.

DPMS PANTHER AP4 CARBINE, AR-15, Semi-automatic, 223 Rem/556NATO, 16" M4 Barrel, Bayonet Lug, Birdcage Brake, Matte Black Finish, 30Rd, 1 Magazine, Cleaning Kit, Sling RFA2AP4A

SKU GAG_DPRFA2AP4A
UPC 884451000020
Manufacturer Part Number RFA2AP4A
Manufacturer DPMS
Condition New in Box
$556.18

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DPMS Panther Oracle Black .223 / 5.56 NATO 16-inch 30rd http://grabagun.com/dpms-panther-ora...3-16-30rd.html
$439.00
-$75.00 Mail in rebate https://dpms.rebateaccess.com/promotion.php?p=74841
-------
$364.00 Total

DPMS Oracle Semi-automatic AR 223 Rem 556NATO 16" Black AP4 6 Position Fwd Assist, Dst Cvr 30Rd Flattop RFA3-OC

PANTHER ™ ORACLE • 5.56x54mm • 16 " lite contour barrel • Black finish • Semi-auto, gas-operated rotating bolt • Phosphated 8620 steel bolt carrier, heat treated & plated per Mil. Spec. • Receiver material: (RFA3-OC) 7075-T6 aircraft aluminum alloy upper/lower receiver or (RFLR-OC) 6066-T6 aluminum thick-walled upper receiver & 6061-T6 lower receiver; Al materials are hard coat anodized per Mil. Spec. & Teflon coated black • Upper: A3 Picatinny rail flattop; “ T ” Marked; Dust cover; Shell deflector; Round forward assist; RH ejection • Lower: Aluminum trigger guard & magazine release button • Barrel: 4140 Chrome-moly steel; 6 Grooves - RH; 1:9 Twist (5.56) 1:10 Twist (7.62); A2 Flash hider; Single-rail gas block • Handguard: Carbine length, oval GlacierGuards ™ w/ aluminum delta ring • Pardus stock: (6-Position, telescoping fiber reinforced polymer w/check rest, curved & serrated buttplate, & multip

DPMS Oracle, Semi-automatic, 223 Rem/556NATO, 16" Barrel, Black Finish, AP4 6-Position Stock, 30Rd, Flat Top, Forward Assist, Dust Cover RFA3-OC

SKU GAG_DPRFA3-OC
UPC 884451002383
Manufacturer Part Number RFA3OC
Manufacturer DPMS
Condition New in Box
$439.00

If you click "additional information" you can see the manufacturer part number of each.
Try going to the DPMS site and comparing there.
Grabagun doesn't show full info for each so it's impossible to say how similar they are.
Twist rates?
Barrel profile? M4? Lightweight?

On the surface they look mostly the same, but it's hard to say.