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February 21st, 2013, 12:46 PM #1
Regarding Remington Arms in NYS
Two reference new articles here. Things could be interesting:
NEW YORK'S GUN LAWS HAVE POSSIBLE 1200 JOB LOSS, DEVASTATING ILION, NY REMINGTON GUN MFG FACILITY IN BUSINESS SINCE 1816--MAKERS OF THE AR-15--as a result, other states call on Remington officials in NY state to lure them to their own states.
FACTORY MAY HAVE TO LEAVE ILION, NY--GOV CUOMO's GUN LEGISLATION IS THE CAUSE; CUOMO REFUSES TO HEAR MAYOR'S PLEA
Contact Gov. Andrew Cuomo: (518) 474-8390
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=TgMM52tgwCw
From two articles linked below:
When New York state passed a wave of new gun-control laws on Jan. 15, it outlawed a type of assault rifle made just over an hour's drive from the state capital.
In Ilion, N.Y., it's not hard to be across the street — or at least around the corner — from the Remington Arms factory. Remington makes several types of rifles, including the style used in the Newtown, Conn., elementary school shooting. In response to that tragedy, New York banned that gun, the Bushmaster AR-15, from being sold in the state.
The laws were pushed through the Legislature quickly, and there's a feeling in Ilion that no one bothered to ask Remington — or the town — their opinion.
Everyone 'Would Be In Trouble'
This town of 8,000 people along the Erie Canal was built around the complex of brick buildings, which began turning out rifles almost 200 years ago. The factory even has its own museum, which draws charter buses full of visitors.
A block away, it's lunchtime at Sorrento Pizzeria. A few of the 1,200 Remington workers trickle in and out. Owner Ignazio Magro used to have that schedule. He came to upstate New York from Italy in 1973. He couldn't speak English, and got a job at the plant. He was laid off a decade later, but used his saved wages to open the restaurant.
"Everybody around this area, if it wasn't for Remington Arms, would be in trouble," he says. "Everybody, lunchtime, 12 o'clock, they're coming over here to get a slice of pizza, whatever they needed."
Generations Of Workers
Those workers have been worried about their jobs with the recent push for new gun legislation. Frank "Rusty" Brown and a few dozen other Remington workers traveled to the Capitol last week to try and make their voices heard.
"I'm one of three generations of my family that worked there. My parents worked there, I work there, my daughter works there," he says. "We've been doing this for many years. We have good-paying union jobs at Remington. That company treats us well."
In the past, New York has treated Remington's owner well, too. Since 2009, New York's economic development agency has given the gun maker more than $5 million to move jobs to Ilion from factories in other states.
John Scarano, director of the county's Chamber of Commerce, is worried the state won't step up if Remington threatens to leave.
"Probably right now, nobody wants to touch it," he says.
He says Remington has always been good to the community.
"We're not only hurt by maybe the possibility of the loss of jobs, but we're hurt because our friend could be hurt, our friend being Remington Arms," Sarcano says.
Remington Arms Company is threatening to pull its plant out of New York because of a gun bill backed by Mayor Bloomberg.
ALBANY — One of the world’s major gun manufacturers is threatening to pull its plant out of New York over a gun bill pushed by Mayor Bloomberg.
Remington Arms Company, in a recent letter to Gov. Cuomo, said it may be forced to bail on the Empire State if a law requiring bullet casings to carry unique markings is enacted.
Supporters argue the technology, known as microstamping, would help solve gun crimes. Detractors say it’s unreliable, easily tampered with and costly.
Remington has a manufacturing plant that employs more than 1,000 workers in the village of Ilion, about 90 miles west of Albany.
“Mandating firearms micro- stamping will restrict the ability of Remington to expand business in the Empire State,” company chief strategy officer Stephen Jackson Jr. wrote to Cuomo.
“Worse yet, Remington could be forced to reconsider its commitment to the New York market altogether rather than spend the astronomical sums of money needed to completely reconfigure our manufacturing and assembly processes.”
Jackson insisted that law enforcement, gun retailers and “law-abiding consumers throughout New York — if not the entire country” would be directly affected.
Senate bill sponsor Jose Peralta dismissed Remingtons warning as “just another tactic being used to try and block microstamping, which is supported by many crime-fighters.”
He said gun manufacturers didn’t leave California and Massachusetts when those states enacted ballistic identification rules.
Cuomo during his 2010 campaign called microstamping a “common-sense” and “pro-law enforcement” gun safety law.
The governors position has not changed, even with Remington's threat to leave, Cuomo spokesman Josh Vlasto said.
Microstamping is not expected to clear the GOP-controlled Senate, where Democratic efforts to bring it to the floor have been blocked.
The bills best chance might have been in 2010 when the Democrats controlled the Senate. But the Dems couldnt muster the required 32 votes to pass it.
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...#ixzz2LLzQpn6f
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February 21st, 2013, 01:03 PM #2
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I believe that Any Manufacture of Firearms or Firearm related items and for that matter Any of the National competitions, Bianchi Cup, SASS, etc should move out of that state that Subverts the Constitution and the Second Admendment. Send a very clear message that they will not abide their Anti Second Admendment Rhetoric. Maybe when enough revenue is lost people, ie. Voters, will wake up....but sadly I very much doubt it.
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February 21st, 2013, 03:52 PM #3
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and yet Remington has yet to make a statement concerning the movement to not recognize an LE exemption in ban states.
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February 21st, 2013, 04:16 PM #4
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Interesting that the GOP-controlled senate still passed the 7-round magazine limit. Is there anything more worthless than a NYS GOP politician?
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February 21st, 2013, 04:36 PM #5
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February 21st, 2013, 05:05 PM #6
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Senate bill sponsor Jose Peralta dismissed Remingtons warning as “just another tactic being used to try and block microstamping, which is supported by many crime-fighters.”Last edited by phoenix01; February 21st, 2013 at 05:08 PM.
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February 21st, 2013, 05:10 PM #7
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I feel bad for the people that live in Ilion, but Remington...
...please leave NYS, please leave NYS...
I'd love nothing more than to see Remington and other manufacturers like them pack up and take hundreds (thousand+ in Remington's case) of jobs and millions in cash out of these states.
Kimber's been awful quiet, and they're in NYC (Yonkers):
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...on-ny-gun-ban/
I don't care how good their 1911s are, they look like prime boycott material to me if they won't deign a response, or support the very customers of theirs that NY is trying to make into outlaws.Last edited by ChamberedRound; February 21st, 2013 at 05:14 PM.
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February 21st, 2013, 08:27 PM #8
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In fairness the Senate is not controlled by Republicans. It is controlled by Republicans and five Democrats calling themselves "independent democrats" who broke away from the democratic party. They then entered into a shared leadership arrangement with the republicans.
The only republican that voted no were the 18 that represent upstate. Every single down state RINO voted yes and I have to believe that a lot of that was to with Skelos urging them to because if he hadn't he wouldn't be the co leader anymore. Now mind you the entire time Skelos kept saying this thing would not pass, and then turned around and voted for it himself.
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